I DARE anyone on the forums to show me a video of this...

SwiftKitten88·Nov 28, 2016·3 votes·940 views

This quoted statement is so horrendously beyond the realm of sanity, it deserves its own thread..

{quoted} "I-almost-oneshot-tanks-midgame" - Nidalee.

So i have a DARE for ANYONE on the forums who has EVER wanted to prove me wrong... here is your chance:

Find me ONE video.. of ANY nidalee 1 shotting ANY tank from ANY patch in a ranked game with a player who is remotely the same level as nid and has even a single MR item and who has near full hp...

THAT IS MY DARE!!!

EDIT: LOL, downvote all you like because that's all you CAN do... so go ahead.. downvote. Becuase, every post i make, i back up with data, with proof, i make theories based on FACT and i provide link to my evidence , and all you can do is throw out your little downvotes. Because every FACT, every piece of data. proves I am right, and you are wrong.. SO SUCK IT.

14 Comments

Handy Sandy Nov 28, 20164 votes

posts video of darius getting oneshotted

"DARIUS ISN'T A TANK"

Lux HDNov 28, 20163 votes

Also known as:

"People stopped responding to me on the original thread, so I needed to make a new one"

SwiftKitten88Nov 28, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lux HD,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gLvoMooc,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-11-28T21:20:43.803+0000)

Also known as:

"People stopped responding to me on the original thread, so I needed to make a new one"

also know as: you cant find a video can you?

BrightonNov 28, 20163 votes

Can't, have a headshot vid instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0vDp9HEFBk

SwiftKitten88Nov 28, 20161 votes

{quoted}

Can't, have a headshot vid instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0vDp9HEFBk

i had the mute the sound of that video... that was horrible..

but yeah, it's not really a "1 shot" if they had 200 hp before you the the spear XD

five oh tree Nov 28, 20162 votes

Did you even watch the full vid? she 100-0'd cait in her fountain with 1 spear at one point.

QuephaNov 28, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=ninja swaggy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gLvoMooc,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-11-28T22:40:07.303+0000)

Did you even watch the full vid? she 100-0'd cait in her fountain with 1 spear at one point.

Cait is a tank?

five oh tree Nov 28, 20162 votes

No, but this was video wasn't about 1 shotting tanks. And she replied saying it wasn't a 1 shot if the target had 200 hp. The person who posted the video originally said they couldn't find one of nid 1shotting a tank, so the OP wasn't talking about a tank with 200 hp.

READ

AttackOnTeemosNov 28, 20162 votes

I knew someone with the user named Tanks o.o Technically...I wouldn't be wrong if I had him make a video...of it happening.

SwiftKitten88Nov 28, 20161 votes

{quoted}

I knew someone with the user named Tanks o.o Technically...I wouldn't be wrong if I had him make a video...of it happening.

if that is what it takes.. i'll accept that, because that the closest anyone is ever going to see to it ever happening XD

GankhísKhanNov 28, 20161 votes

You even said it in your quote there. "Almost one shotting tanks mid game." Almost = Not 100% 1 shot, but potentially 80%. Not very uncommon. Since if the enemy tank has been shut down and the nidalee is fed, with a max range spear landing it can happen. I've seen Nidalee spears 1-shot mid laners/adc's. I've been around since the beta and have seen all the nidalee nerfs on her Q and buffs. Specifically you'd have to find a clip from pre-patch 4.10.

But for the hell of it. Let's just do some great math for you because you only want a video, but unfortunately, not every league player records everything they ever do all the time. Not everyone is so conceited. So, I'll do some math.

Once upon as time Max damage spear was calculated at level 5 spear, at 575 + (162.5% AP) So. We can assume, at mid game a fed nidalee could have around ~ 500 AP. That means her spear is doing 575+812.5 damage at max range spear at level 5 spear. Which is 1337.5 damage. Now, let's throw in a rammus tank. Because, you did mention "tank". Rammus wants to build armor for his passive. Not MR. So let's just say, this rammus is focusing building armor, and isn't very smart and bought only armor items.. no MR or HP items. Mid game rammus level 11.. has 1319 HP, and 43.1 base MR. Now, with no bonus HP/MR.. ecause this rammus is behind and built armor.. he can be 1 shot by a mid level nidalee who is fed and has a void staff.

Anyway, theoretical shit aside, no one 1 shots anyone unless they're ahead. I read your old threads, you seem salty that Nidalee isn't as good. Too bad. I've gone through several main champs who were constantly nerfed over and over again. To start; Ahri/Rengar/Kha/Kindred etc. Everytime I picked those champs up, they got nerfed. Until recently. But the fact still stands, nidalee is in a good enough place, just the meta doesn't allow her to excel. In fact, a lot of champs don't fit into the meta. You seem to just be upset that you. Once upon a time, nidalee was a strong bruiser at top lane. Then they had to shift that because there was minimal counter-play to it at the time. That's kind of how balancing works. Anyway, if you are a good nidalee you'll make it work. Regardless of nerfs. "Oh no Rylai nerf QQ Nidalee forever useless." Or.. why not just change your build and play better? "Oh blue buff isn't as good.. gg nidalee garbage." When was the last time you ever saw a champ useless due to red/blue buffs?

Oh. Also... nidalee's spear is probably the strongest poke tool in the game. 5 enemies under tower defending? Keep throwing spears.. Even if you miss 60% of the time you'll hit 40% and that can change the outcome of a tower being taken. But if they have 5 people under a tower in a lane.. your chances of hitting 1 enemy are huge. Even if you suck. So that's kind of the reason why they toned down nidalee's spear in the past. But as of right now? Her champ is balanced. An item nerf doesn't change anything.

Rylai's will cost less, so you can get a power spike earlier. (Get it? It's not like they removed things and kept the price.) Secondly, if you're so worried about the HP/AP combo and NOT the slow like you mentioned... Get yourself a rod of ages. 100 AP + 500 HP. after 10 minutes of buying it. Your problem is solved! That's better than old Rylai's. at 400 HP and 100 AP, and it's 500g cheaper than old rylai's. But I already know your next excuse. "I also get RoA with Rylais." Well then you just proved to me you're focusing on building nidalee into a bruiser AP which isn't what was intended.

SwiftKitten88Nov 28, 20161 votes

{quoted}

You even said it in your quote there. "Almost one shotting tanks mid game." Almost = Not 100% 1 shot, but potentially 80%. Not very uncommon. Since if the enemy tank has been shut down and the nidalee is fed, with a max range spear landing it can happen. I've seen Nidalee spears 1-shot mid laners/adc's. I've been around since the beta and have seen all the nidalee nerfs on her Q and buffs. Specifically you'd have to find a clip from pre-patch 4.10.

But for the hell of it. Let's just do some great math for you because you only want a video, but unfortunately, not every league player records everything they ever do all the time. Not everyone is so conceited. So, I'll do some math.

Once upon as time Max damage spear was calculated at level 5 spear, at 575 + (162.5% AP) So. We can assume, at mid game a fed nidalee could have around ~ 500 AP. That means her spear is doing 575+812.5 damage at max range spear at level 5 spear. Which is 1337.5 damage. Now, let's throw in a rammus tank. Because, you did mention "tank". Rammus wants to build armor for his passive. Not MR. So let's just say, this rammus is focusing building armor, and isn't very smart and bought only armor items.. no MR or HP items. Mid game rammus level 11.. has 1319 HP, and 43.1 base MR. Now, with no bonus HP/MR.. ecause this rammus is behind and built armor.. he can be 1 shot by a mid level nidalee who is fed and has a void staff.

Anyway, theoretical shit aside, no one 1 shots anyone unless they're ahead. I read your old threads, you seem salty that Nidalee isn't as good. Too bad. I've gone through several main champs who were constantly nerfed over and over again. To start; Ahri/Rengar/Kha/Kindred etc. Everytime I picked those champs up, they got nerfed. Until recently. But the fact still stands, nidalee is in a good enough place, just the meta doesn't allow her to excel. In fact, a lot of champs don't fit into the meta. You seem to just be upset that you. Once upon a time, nidalee was a strong bruiser at top lane. Then they had to shift that because there was minimal counter-play to it at the time. That's kind of how balancing works. Anyway, if you are a good nidalee you'll make it work. Regardless of nerfs. "Oh no Rylai nerf QQ Nidalee forever useless." Or.. why not just change your build and play better? "Oh blue buff isn't as good.. gg nidalee garbage." When was the last time you ever saw a champ useless due to red/blue buffs?

Oh. Also... nidalee's spear is probably the strongest poke tool in the game. 5 enemies under tower defending? Keep throwing spears.. Even if you miss 60% of the time you'll hit 40% and that can change the outcome of a tower being taken. But if they have 5 people under a tower in a lane.. your chances of hitting 1 enemy are huge. Even if you suck. So that's kind of the reason why they toned down nidalee's spear in the past. But as of right now? Her champ is balanced. An item nerf doesn't change anything.

Rylai's will cost less, so you can get a power spike earlier. (Get it? It's not like they removed things and kept the price.) Secondly, if you're so worried about the HP/AP combo and NOT the slow like you mentioned... Get yourself a rod of ages. 100 AP + 500 HP. after 10 minutes of buying it. Your problem is solved! That's better than old Rylai's. at 400 HP and 100 AP, and it's 500g cheaper than old rylai's. But I already know your next excuse. "I also get RoA with Rylais." Well then you just proved to me you're focusing on building nidalee into a bruiser AP which isn't what was intended.

ok first off, im not saying the nerfs will bring her to 40% win rate.. she is ALREADY at 40% win rate BEFORE the pbe nerfs to blue and rylias.

second... you say nidalee has aprrox 500 ap mid game? REALLY? lets assume i get CRAZY fed and i have approx 10k gold by 20 min Nidalee item 1410 60 ap 2625 gold item 3158 900 gold item 3116 100 ap 3200 gold item 3100 80 ap 3200 gold

that is 9925 gold and that is a NORMAL nidalee build, and it would be the exact build you would do IF you got a crazy gold lead

i have 240 ap..... if im CRAZY fed... 4 complete items with 10k gold by 20 min. this is the BEST CASE scenario.

if you assume nidalee has 500 ap by mid game you're crazy..

so the first part or your hypothetical scenario is completely busted.

second your senario also includes a player, aka said rammus... not playing playing very smart. not building MR, he still has to get hit by the spear

also.. like i said.. nidalee would NEVER have prioritized such an early item 3135 , vs a team not building MR so again this could not happen

as for your second point item 3027 may give nidalee the STATS she wants... but. nidalee is an EARILY game champion you will NEVER complete ANY other item before you complete item 1410 and item 3158 at which time you hit a very large powerspike and you try to snowball while you have a lead.. the stacking mechanic makes her weak during what is her strongest time in the game, and by the time it has finished stacking, her powerspike is over.. there is also item 3030 but that also donest give as much mana, and most of the gold value that makes it efficient is in the active.. which nidalee wont use. leaving again... item 3116 ... not for the slow... but for the AP and HP.

SwiftKitten88Nov 28, 20161 votes

{quoted} you seem salty that Nidalee isn't as good.

"isn't as good?"

really? that's what you call a 40% win rate?

i mean a Shaco player can complain about shako's rework when he has 53-54% winrate and he gets UPVOTES

but no. i complain about nidalee haveing a FORTY PERCENT. And i get downvotes?

he can ask to buff a champ with a winrate THIRTEEN PERCENT higher than my champ.. and he gets upvotes... while you downvote me for asking to a 40% winrate champ.. who ALSO as two MORE nerfs on pbe...

i don't really think i'm asking for something unreasonable. idk maybe... 46% win rate

i mean.. you can buff her winrate by SIX PERCENT. and she will still be BAD

GankhísKhanNov 29, 20161 votes

{quoted}

"isn't as good?"

really? that's what you call a 40% win rate?

i mean a player can complain about shako's rework when he has 53-54% winrate and he gets UPVOTES

but no. i complain about nidalee haveing a FORTY PERCENT. And i get downvotes?

he can ask to buff a champ with a winrate THIRTEEN PERCENT higher than my champ.. and he gets upvotes... while you downvote me for asking to a 40% winrate champ.. who ALSO as two MORE nerfs on pbe...

i don't really think i'm asking for something unreasonable. idk maybe... 46% win rate

i mean.. you can buff her winrate by SIX PERCENT. and she will still be BAD

I was talking pre 4.10 patch 500 AP earlier. Pay attention. It was easier to get AP. When you mentioned "Show me a tank getting 1 shot". So that whole argument earlier is kinda null. Your build vs my build too. You picked up a lich bane, I would've gone for a deathcap, since I'm aiming to land a 1 hit spear, not procing for a Lich bane Q. Regardless, let's just skip that.

You're talking about 1 champ that has a 40% win rate. Wanna know the best part about win rates? It means nothing. I watch people play nunu jungle and feed. But he's at what 56% win rate right now in jungle? Great. I've seen people carry games with urgot jungle, and not just once. But many many times. So before you get crazy about how a low win rate is, you can still do good with any champ as long as you work with it.