Gee Riot, That's a swell new Ult for Garen, but I read his other changes.

Ser Garland··9 votes·610 views

First off, let me say that I love Garen's new Ult. It's thematic, powerful, unique. These are what you were going for right? Garen's ult has always been a little lack luster. But it was impossible to buff because of the rest of his kit being too strong.

So naturally I had my suspicions when I read his gameplay update on your website. You can't hide things from the PBE.

So now comes the scolding.

I'm a little irritated that you didn't discuss the changes made to the rest of his kit. And these aren't just number changes, they're changes to his entire identity.

Basically, everything that made Tank Garen a thing has been nerfed.

His silence duration has been nerfed. His E base damage has been nerfed. his natural health per level has been nerfed. His passive health regen has been nerfed. His tenacity has been removed. His %passive armour bonus has been removed He now moves slower with his E activated on an enemy champion. His E no longer Crits.

Here's what they added beyond his ult.

Better ratio's on his damage. A passive armor stack on his W that functions similar to a Sion-Shyvana passive lovechild.

They've transformed his build path to be more damage focused, and less tanky. Punishing tank Garen and forcing him into being fighter Garen.

When I think of Garen, I think a tanky bruiser Whose in love with Spirit Visage and Black Cleaver, who has insane stick potential and is always in the front line, tanking damage and seeking out the enemy carry. Garen Goes where he pleases. he also had the identity of being the "anti melee carry". He was never a melee carry himself, unless pitted against another one.

Now, with his silence lowered, he's seriously vulnerable to Riven. Which is an odd choice since Riven players are usually not vulnerable to many champions.

This also makes chogath have the longest silence in the game, that is also AoE and ranged.

You lied to us about not changing his silence. And you flipped him upside down from being a tank, to a fighter.

3 Comments

Sir Yamazuki3 votes

Honestly, I don't know why Riot wants him to be a damage fighter. He's mainly been built tanky for ages, he even used to be one of those sunfire stackers. I have been playing since before S1 and between all my accounts Garen is my most played champion, playing him on all roles but adc. If I wanted a damage fighter there's already Darius or Riven for that. I played Garen because I enjoyed being tankier. The fancy new ult mechanic and the different E isn't something I would want if it means completely nerfing the silence and destroying his W along with that pointless self slow.

46104328_DEL1 votes

I'm fairly certain Riot wants to die, what with nerfing all these fan favorite champs, and making toxic encouraging kits, such as New Skarner, Tahm, and New Fiora.

Matezoide1 votes

Riot buffs E damage on the same patch he is slowed by 20 fucking % during it.

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