Can we maybe buff elise

Succubús GF·Sep 21, 2016·2 votes·541 views

Basically the only buff i wanna truly see on her is her q. Just feels so useless. You use it to engage i guess but its damage is fairly minimal and it is too mana hungry to really bother using it if you dont have to

10 Comments

Earl EulrichSep 21, 20163 votes

yea, buff an s-tier jungler - what could possibly go wrong?

Sexy Jack RabbitSep 21, 20162 votes

The Human Form Q is meant to be used against tanks in order to whittle them down. It deals Percentage health damage more so then it does flat damage, whereas the Spider Form Q only deals flat damage, and is used for execution purposes. Buffing Elise would put her too high in the meta and most likely result in her being dumpstered, she is currently sitting in a healthy place, and buffing her would be a mistake.

Succubús GFSep 21, 20161 votes

I meant to elaborate, human form q would be a good buff, spider form q is perfectly fine. Do you play elise frequently? If so i am sure you notice you use e,q,w and w is where the damage comes from in human form. Her percent health damage is garbage compared to how many other abusers.

Dovahkiin416Sep 21, 20161 votes

Played Elise a little bit yesterday, forgot how fun she is. Ended 7/1/(can't remember).

She seems pretty healthy to me. Her human form's Q scales from AP, more AP adds more percentage.

Sexy Jack RabbitSep 21, 20162 votes

It's due to the point of Elise is not built to do percentage health damage. The Human Form Q serves as an option against tanks, but Elise is in no aspect a tank killer. It serves as option to use against them when need be, but ideally you should not be facing them. As far as combo's and damage comparisons go, a majority of Elise's damage comes from her Spider form. E, Q/W, W/Q, R, Q, W. Is probably the most common combo used on Elise, with Elise ending in Spider Form for the Execution. Buffing the Human Form Q would be pretty pointless, considering throughout her Kit, it is your by far least used spell.

RoMzSep 21, 20162 votes

She's one of the best junglers right now no need

JRobin31Sep 21, 20161 votes

Elise is in a pretty good place right now. She may be falling a little bit with all of the changes that have happened recently to other champions and what not, but I don't think she needs a buff.

Sexy Jack RabbitSep 21, 20161 votes

I agree. I think she can kind of just improve and fall with the meta in her current state, it's quite good. The more squishy champs that come into the meta (Such as other Carry JGs being buffed again), she'll meld alongside them easily. The more tanks, the less play she'll see.

GlowshtickSep 21, 20161 votes

I am an elise main, and I have over 500 ranked games on elise. Bow down and suck on deez Elise nutz.

But seriously, Q human form on elise is a little too free to be as strong as her W. I strongly appreciate her Q just how it is because if i'm trying to full burst a squishy from max health, I am getting the most out of this Q relatively easily and am using it exactly how it is intended to be; a combo starter. What's even better about this is that you can break banshee's veil's passive item 3102 , malzahar passive , and even psyche out a fiora repost. Fiora

It will hit 100% of the time under normal circumstances and has a relatively low cooldown (6 seconds at each level if I'm right), making it nice for poking a little before a fight if you have the range or just a bit of general harass on the side. With ~~runeglaive~~ runic echo's prock, it even does solid damage to squishies.

Think of Elise human form Q as a shard of your burst that typically will not fail. I feel any buffs on elise Q would be way too free of a cast. Try not to think of it being like vayne's ability to shred tanks, rather a rewarding ability if you use it at the beginning of a combo, but balanced enough not to finish someone off if they get out of range of a spider form Q. If it wasn't scaled like this, Spider form Q and human form Q wouldn't be balanced quite right.

So again in review, human form Q doesn't counter volibear, runeglaive shouldn't have been removed, Elise burst is already stupid, and I am a god. Elise