In response to another's post about have Annie's stun stacks fall off

Hibeki··3 votes·423 views

I do believe as well that Annie is annoying to play against. I feel like instead of changing the 'stay out of her range' aspect we should instead change the impact of what happens when you are in range

The fact of the matter is an instant cast aoe stun for almost 2 seconds is pretty ridiculous. It's the whole reason Veigars E saw nerfed. An instant long duration AOE stun is just too powerful.

Annie's stun is the longest and most easiest to hit aoe stun in the entire game. Sejuani ult is equal in duration, but it's a skillshot and you have to direct impact someone with it to stun. Veigars stun is delayed and is quite difficult to hit now that its delayed.

I suggest that the stun duration is cut if you use W or R for the stun, but remains the same for Q. This means that annie can pick off targets almost as effectively by using QRW, and leaves some room for counterplay, while also keeping in check the flash ult W to engage a teamfight isnt an instant win.

Maybe something by lets say half? Stuns are usually that long if they are either conditional, difficult to hit, or are single target. Annies is instant cast flat aoe with no travel time, It has no excuse for it being that large.

As of right now it wouldn't really change Annie's laning phase, Annie cant afford to flash ult every kill in laning, and by the time thats relevant shes gone to roam anyway. Shes going to be using Q to stun for the most part to begin with.

Annies stun starts at 1.25, then progresses at level 6 to 1.5, and then at level 12 to 1.75. I think it would be fair to have the AOE instead stun for .625, .75, and .875 respectively?

Thoughts?

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cuddlykitten42 votes

Morgana has a longer stun

Eedat6 votes

Its not a stun, its a root

cuddlykitten41 votes

Eegads, you're correct. My bad.

SnugglePuggle942 votes

No. She is based all around her stun and that will nerf her too hard. Honestly people need to stop QQing about her."An instant long duration AOE stun is just too powerful." Well of course it's powerful, she's a BURST MAGE. Stop trying to change her into something she's not.

Hibeki6 votes

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No. She is based all around her stun and that will nerf her too hard. Honestly people need to stop QQing about her."An instant long duration AOE stun is just too powerful." Well of course it's powerful, she's a BURST MAGE. Stop trying to change her into something she's not.

if you haven't noticed, burst mages burst a person, not teams

YumScrumptious961 votes

I wish I had more upvotes

SnugglePuggle941 votes

I do know that. Annie doesn't burst teams. She bursts squishies. The rest of the team might not get bursted as efficiently such as tanks or anti mages like Galio, but she can still do some damage and ultimately protect herself with her stun.

USG Failsawce2 votes

Stop the QQ and bad threads about this already please.

She's super immobile, squishy, and her stun can be played around. She also can't do shit if her ult isn't up unless MEGA FED.

Learn to play.

BloodyTompon2 votes

Sejuani ult is equal in duration, but it's a skillshot and you have to direct impact someone with it to stun

So are Annie's. W and R are both AoE skill shots and have to directly hit to stun. Annie doesn't even get a slow if she misses. #buffAnnie. :P

SkyBlade791 votes

Annie gets tons of damage, Sej gets... a bit of CC? I guess?

Blåbæret2 votes

OP enjoy getting downvoted by annie mains. She clearly needs to be fixed. I'd start by removing her stun.

SkyBlade791 votes

Even I, the person who made the post about having her stacks fall off, think that making her lose her stun is kind of irrational. It's the whole definition of her kit, to be honest.

Quepha1 votes

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The fact of the matter is an instant cast aoe stun

Annie's only instant spell is her E.

BloodyTompon1 votes

You'd have to grant him that the reaction time is fairly low though. I can't agree with much (anything?) else in the OP other than that general sentiment.

lilpokfluf1 votes

I like to pick orianna or fizz depending on how aggressive I'm feeling. You should try to learn those champs and they'll have to outplay you since you can 1 shot with fizz or poke her to death whenever she cs with orianna.

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