@RIOT How can Elise be untargetable in rappel and still be affected by Grave's smokescreen?
Is this intentional? because I don't understand why it would be.
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Rudolf Antler2 votesBecause people who are untargetable arent immune to all effects. For instance yi can still get stunned by jax mid q. And graves smokescreen doesn't target
CatSith1 votesYi's untargetable is different from Elise's rappel, He still takes CC effects but only after his Q is finished.
SwiftKitten881 votes[{quoted}](name=Rudolf Antler,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g4Ag652f,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-02-26T19:29:41.431+0000)
Because people who are untargetable arent immune to all effects. For instance yi can still get stunned by jax mid q. And graves smokescreen doesn't target
but it seems like being untargetable completly removed your model (and your hitbox) for the game for a period of time
just today i had a yi perfect dodge my nid spear.
i dont see why it if the model has no hitbox it could be hit with something like jax's stun
or am i not understanding this correctly
nids spear is not a targeted spell if yi had a hitbox he should have been hit i dont see why an "AOE" skill would make a difference it still has to contact the character model right?
Dominick Destine2 votesUntargetable =/= Invulnerable
But if you want to be pedantic; Doesn't smoke rise up ?
CatSith1 votes"If smoke rises" ( by your logic for his smoke screen), then Yasuo shouldn't be blocking all skill shots. Last time I checked Untargetable does avoid all Ground targeted AOE abilities.
Dominick Destine1 votesLast time I checked Untargetable does avoid all Ground targeted AOE abilities.
Untargetable does not make you immune to debuffs which Graves' smokescreen is.
If smoke rises, then Yasuo shouldn't be blocking all skill shots.
Yasuo does not use smoke.
CatSith1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g4Ag652f,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-02-26T19:47:03.488+0000)
Untargetable does not make you immune to debuffs which Graves' smokescreen is.
Graves's nearsight debuff only affects targets inside the smoke, Elise isn't in it when she rappels.
Yasuo does not use smoke.
Yasuo's windwall is only above ground so why is it blocking skill shots that are in the ground?
Dominick Destine2 votesGraves's nearsight debuff only affects targets inside the smoke
Elise is within the radius, therefore Elise is affected.
Yasuo's windwall is only above ground so why is it blocking skill shots that are in the ground?
Because the Wind is affecting beneath the ground.
Checkmate.
CatSith1 votesLol Trolls gonna troll.
Checkmate.
Dominick Destine3 votesNope not trolling, but you are free to pretend otherwise.
Checkmate.
CatSith1 votes[deleted]
Dominick Destine2 votesShe isn't in it when she rappels
Incorrect.
The wind cant be in the ground
Yes it can.
Checkmate.
Masala Chai1 votesHow many games of chess are you guys playing?
Karma Deified1 votesIt's actually a bon fire!
Blue Kaozi1 votesTechnically, until she clicks out of it, she is in the debuffed area. The easiest way to test if this is intended or nowt would be to take a similar champ / skill and see how the debuff affects them. For example, use playfull/trickster on fizz. If it is consistent, e-ing into it will reduce vision while fizz is untartetable.
Critmaster Garen1 votesuntargetable is exactly that. youre immune to direct targeted abilites but can still get affected by aoe abilities.
smokescreen is an aoe ability.
CatSith1 votesno aoes dont work on untargetable. Only dots and tethers.
Critmaster Garen1 votesno aoes dont work on untargetable. Only dots and tethers.
yes, i know for a fact that they do. old fiora used to get killed during her ult by aoe abilities for example. dont be stubborn. untargetable means that you cant be directly targeted by other players. means auto attacks and direct targeted abilities.
but youll still get hit by aoe. and since elise is considered to be in the center of her circle during rappel, she will lose vision to a graves cloud.
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