Am I the only one that knows that Maw is really good right now

FalconPawwwwnch·Dec 29, 2014·7 votes·1,782 views

Like REALLY good right now

Hexdrinker even more so

19 Comments

SmokingPuffinDec 29, 20145 votes

Hexdrinker is amazing.

Maw is iffy.

DefenderOfFaithDec 29, 20142 votes

Heh, please don't share one of the best kept secrets.

PyroDec 29, 20142 votes

Hexdrinker, which wasn't that good to sit on, got buffed with the MR changes, and the shield was always strong

Mercurial Scimitar's MR got reduced by 10, slightly lowering that item's slot efficiency

Spectre's Cowl got nerfed, Banshee's regen got gutted

Yeah, Maw is strong, especially when compared to alternatives.

GunpointDec 29, 20142 votes

KogMaw What?

AtheosisXDec 29, 20141 votes

No you are not the only one. It's my go to item for AD champs when I need some survivability against AP burst.

aLawfulFalafelDec 29, 20141 votes

id have to partially disagree as item 3155 is a building item towards item 3156 , how could it possibly be even more better? ^^need to pick the order of saying things or else you make no sense, like athenes is good but chalice is better lolol

that being said item 3156 is a great item on many AD champs whether ranged or melee but some champs can still benefit more from item 3091 as attack speed may be more important to the champ or the situation as well as it STEALS MR, meaning u gain and they lose (alot of AD champs still deal magic damage in their kits) MR, not only making your abilities more powerfull (though not alot) but making your basic attacks more powerful as well as they now apply bonus magic damage thats being less and less resisted with each attack and opening up the enemy to ally magic damage, seeing as its a team game this item can really help u melt a champ as a team to move to the next focused target and melt them faster also which the maw doesnt do. (im certainly not bashing the maw, i love it :P just pointing out thats its not as much of a teambased atk/MR item so its not always the best buy) champs like Zed though will almost always be making the best use of Maw possible

Edit : maw and wits together give so much sustain, dmg and atk speed it almost shouldnt be allowed to build both

Leaf of the lakeDec 29, 20141 votes

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id have to partially disagree as is a building item towards , how could it possibly be even more better? ^^need to pick the order of saying things or else you make no sense, like athenes is good but chalice is better lolol

Hexdrinker is "better" in the sense that it gives more bang for its buck. It's a cheap item with an amazing passive. Maw is quite expensive, and you probably won't be finishing it as a first item, while you might rush a hexdrinker.

aLawfulFalafelDec 29, 20141 votes

ok i see what u mean in that sense

but you still only have 6 item slots not an infinite amount, and in my opinion hex isnt a rush item its a situational item nor does the hex build into multiple things, therefore once started u should rush the maws completion (IMO)

alot of build items give "more bang for the buck" but since ur looking at 6 slots you need to manage those slots and finish items to help keep as many slots open as possible so that you dont become "that guy" that has item 3155 item 3044 item 3086 item 1038 item 1053 item 3134 or whatever and needs alot of money just to finish an item maybe its just me but when i see that i get upset, building 2 things at a time is fine but having ONLY building items irritates me

also on a side note im tired and realizing im probly being as toxic if not more than i am being helpful, having issues gettin my thoughts straight and i keep reviewing and rewriting but i think i mostly got what i am trying to say while removing as much toxicity as possible, cuz lets face it, everyones gonna build how they wanna anyways and what may seem off or wrong or w/e to me doesnt actually mean a thing, ppl still get upset when i build a item 3070 on Ashe or a item 3508 on MissFortune even though i really like those items on those champs :)

Leaf of the lakeDec 29, 20141 votes

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ok i see what u mean in that sense

but you still only have 6 item slots not an infinite amount, and in my opinion hex isnt a rush item its a situational item nor does the hex build into multiple things, therefore once started u should rush the maws completion (IMO)

alot of build items give "more bang for the buck" but since ur looking at 6 slots you need to manage those slots and finish items to help keep as many slots open as possible so that you dont become "that guy" that has or whatever and needs alot of money just to finish an item maybe its just me but when i see that i get upset, building 2 things at a time is fine but having ONLY building items irritates me

If you're a jayce against a vlad or ryze, you're rushing hexdrinker. It's the premier anti-magic item for offensive AD champs.

As for that hypothetical build, you only need 1150 or 1203 gold to finish an item there, which isn't too bad - especially since sheen's component items don't really do a whole lot. It's not like sitting on a giant's belt with 5 other items and needing 2k gold just to finish it.

aLawfulFalafelDec 29, 20141 votes

i am too tired to respond right now :/ ive marked as unread so i can comeback and keep discussing this with you especially since you are making some valid points that i feel i can learn from :) thumbs up to ya and have a good night bro

SammystormDec 29, 20141 votes

maw also doesn't give you nearly as good offensive or defensive stats as other items if you spent the gold on them. Just like a lot of times people will sit on item 1033 before upgrading to item 3111

GunpointDec 29, 20141 votes

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id have to partially disagree as is a building item towards , how could it possibly be even more better? ^^need to pick the order of saying things or else you make no sense, like athenes is good but chalice is better lolol

that being said is a great item on many AD champs whether ranged or melee but some champs can still benefit more from as attack speed may be more important to the champ or the situation as well as it STEALS MR, meaning u gain and they lose (alot of AD champs still deal magic damage in their kits) MR, not only making your abilities more powerfull (though not alot) but making your basic attacks more powerful as well as they now apply bonus magic damage thats being less and less resisted with each attack and opening up the enemy to ally magic damage, seeing as its a team game this item can really help u melt a champ as a team to move to the next focused target and melt them faster also which the maw doesnt do. (im certainly not bashing the maw, i love it :P just pointing out thats its not as much of a teambased atk/MR item so its not always the best buy) champs like Zed though will almost always be making the best use of Maw possible

Edit : maw and wits together give so much sustain, dmg and atk speed it almost shouldnt be allowed to build both

Think he means cost effective as an early buy.

Drunk RummateDec 29, 20142 votes

hexdrinker is better than maw. the only reason to finish maw is to make the item more slot efficient. there's a reason people build hexdrinker and then leave it unupgraded until they're full build, or nearly there.

BeatzBoyFTWDec 29, 20141 votes

Teemo gonna cry all over me when his shrooms fails to kill my 1 HP :3

Kuroi86Dec 29, 20141 votes

Not even new news.

Kowe The EwokDec 29, 20141 votes

Rushing a hexdrinker commonly is a sure lane win.

Xela SyabDec 29, 20141 votes

i buy it all the time, but sometimes its a toss up between QSS and Banshee's Veil. It really depends if you need to dodge poke, counter cc, or just have some health for burst aoe fights.

andingDec 29, 20141 votes

Maw is amazing on dive heavy AD champs like Zed because Maw gives more AD the more health you're missing. Imagine going in as a 10%-hp Zed and go through the full ult combo. the amount of damage you'd do is insane