Cancel Volibear VGU

Moody P·Jul 15, 2019·3 votes·1,137 views

He is picked and banned in pro play without dominating to an unreasonable degree. He is played by several high elo players now, including Faker.

He maintains a reasonable win and play rate for the champion he is.

There is not a single complaint about Volibear being too strong anywhere you look despite performing well.

This is the peak; this is the optimal situation any champion could hope to be in. Literally, stop everything you're doing and rework Shyvana instead, because a rework will just fuck up this legitimately perfect state of absolute Zen that Volibear has achieved.

Cancel the rework.

12 Comments

ModThe DjinnJul 15, 20198 votes

The rework isn't because he's underpowered / overpowered. It's because he's a fairly bland kit without a lot of depth on a champion with a weird thematic that doesn't match his current place in the lore in the slightest. Basically, it's a rework of opportunity rather than one of necessity. Volibear won't break anything currently, but he's also not living up to anything close to his potential as a character or a kit.

The fact that he won the rework poll shows that a lot of players agree with that.

Moody PJul 15, 20191 votes

players voted for Volibear because they've been propagandized into believing that he is bad despite having been completely workable if not entirely slept on, similarly to Aatrox before his rework; to this day clueless idiots will tell you that he was a grief pick until conqueror and Rageblade magically made him OP

the new lore is bad and hasn't made a good story since the bilgewater event

I guess we would just like the opportunity to have a new broken VGU to complain about endlessly until dumpstered and then clamor at Riots feet for another

FebosJul 15, 20198 votes

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players voted for Volibear because they've been propagandized into believing that he is bad

The same old shit argument. You're implying people can't think for themselves.

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the new lore is bad and hasn't made a good story since the bilgewater event

Spoken like someone who doesn't read the stories.

Genocide VictimJul 15, 20192 votes

Thank you.

KFCeytronJul 15, 20191 votes

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The rework isn't because he's underpowered / overpowered. It's because he's a fairly bland kit without a lot of depth on a champion with a weird thematic that doesn't match his current place in the lore in the slightest. Basically, it's a rework of opportunity rather than one of necessity. Volibear won't break anything currently, but he's also not living up to anything close to his potential as a character or a kit.

The fact that he won the rework poll shows that a lot of players agree with that.

That's called fixing something that isn't broken. I'd rather a champion be "okay" rather than have a pile of new, toxic mechanics that make them pick/ban until the balance team strips away half of those mechanics into a 42% WR.

Matching a champ's "current place in the lore" is especially worrisome, given that the lore has more turnover than the staff of a movie theater. I consider it to be a series of fanfics at this point. What happens in a couple years when the lore team decides to write a cool new story and Voli's fresh rework doesn't match his lore once again? Another rework?

I think Riot should learn to recognize when something is working fine and just leave it alone rather than destroy it.

SukishooJul 15, 20194 votes

Oh yes, Riot, multi-million dollar company gonna cancel work on a project just cause some no name says so.. GG there.

CruciverAug 6, 20191 votes

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Oh yes, Riot, multi-million dollar company gonna cancel work on a project just cause some no name says so.. GG there.

There's precedent. Happened with the Teemo rework despite the new Teemo being objectively better in the design and balance department.

season10balancedJul 15, 20191 votes

As Voli is my 2nd most played champ, I agree. Ever since they changed his E from AP to % max health damage like 6 months ago, he's been in a great state.

Just because he's not picked a lot means nothing.

And he's not bland, just simple. His kit is no more "bland" than any other champion that came out around that time lol

Although you could reason that he needs it because he's completely different in game then in his lore.

Moody PJul 15, 20192 votes

don't worry, like usual boards will ask for more reworks and complain about every single one of them

riot will put Volibear in dumpster so boards can virtue signal about how bad reworks are, then ask for more (again)

season10balancedJul 15, 20193 votes

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don't worry, like usual boards will ask for more reworks and complain about every single one of them

riot will put Volibear in dumpster so boards can virtue signal about how bad reworks are, then ask for more (again)

Nothing wrong with reworks but how about they rework the champs that actually need it???

Like Mundo can legit be countered by a summoner spell, or 1 item. Or how Galio and Akali are both in worse states now then they were pre rework. Those 2 need it more than Voli, and thats just sad tbh