Raptor Cloak could use an aggressive upgrade path

Moody P·Jun 5, 2019·4 votes·3,989 views

ZZRot for split pushing, Ohm for , can we get a Raptor Cloak upgrade that lets you utilize its passive in teamfights?

This is an incredibly underrated item that I often find myself not wanting to upgrade. Raptor Cloak is beautiful, but ZZRot is often not something I as a juggernaut or tank need or want, even when split pushing.

An upgrade path that creates a miniobjective that could be used solely to empower you, and maybe your allies, in or around fights would be greatly welcomed.

10 Comments

nelogisJun 5, 20193 votes

Technically seen Ohmwrecker is the aggressive path since it helps you towerdive people, which is aggressive.

Ohmwrecker would be a decent item if the stats weren't so trash, at the same time would you really want to see a world where Ohmwrecker is viable bruiser item and you get dove off cooldown?

The problem I see with adding another raptors cloak item is:

A) It has to do something with turrets (seen from a thematic standpoint) ZZ'Rot destroys turrets / Ohmwrecker disables them / The next item (which should be an aggressive one) does what? Just buffing yourself or your allies around towers would be too situational, buffing yourself or allies in general is already on an item

Buffing yourself for every turret you have destroyed but that is leaning towards splitpushing again, buffing yourself for every destroyed turret on the field? Might become a too snowbally item like Mejais.

B) Cloak itself is a very powerful item, 30 Armor, a lot of sustain and basically homeguards for 900 gold. The Stats alone have over 100% gold efficiency. The only thing holding top laners back from spamming the item are the very niche finished items. If the item ever becomes a viable rush, it might warp the top meta in a way you wouldn't want to.

I don't think a Bruiser-ish Raptor Cloak item would be a good idea.

GlaricionJun 5, 20191 votes

ZZ'rot is good for forcing sieges into engages, pretty multi-use.

Is sad though that an item as fun as Raptor Cloak has such meh build options.

Zz'rot: So nerfed it is hard to justify it as a post-core item over Gargoyle (or anything else for that matter). Ohm: Has been a joke since its introduction, no clue why it is still in the game.

BrightWîngsJun 5, 20191 votes

The only issue I have with this is I dont really like the idea of haveing an item give both offensive and defensive stats im sure if they do it right it wouldnt be bad. The real question is what would they give it for an offensive like what would it do that makes sense for it to even have a item 2053 because both item 3056 item 3512 both have to do with TOWERS and splitting.

like if they just say make it build out of a item 2053 and say item 1037 or item 1038 I feel it would just be just a weak cheap item that would take up a slot for a way stronger item. I just cant seem to think of anything that would go well with the item and give a reason to need that MS buff from because why wouldnt you just go item 3742 instead? sure it doesnt give any offensive stats but you can use the MS ANYWHERE small burst of magic damage and a decent slow while giving you HP and Armor.

Moody PJun 5, 20191 votes

I didn't ask for AD. I just want an item I can pop in team fights for the raptor cloak passive. I would actually prefer if it gave HP and possibly just replaced Ohmwrecker entirely

BrightWîngsJun 5, 20191 votes

and this is why im fuggin stupid lol

PredatoratorJun 5, 20191 votes

you mean a better Skarner passive that can actually can be spawned everywhere?

Moody PJun 5, 20191 votes

Skarner probably won't keep spires when Riot finally re works him, so why not?

PredatoratorJun 5, 20191 votes

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Skarner probably won't keep spires when Riot finally re works him, so why not?

either that, or they're gonna rework them to be less impairing, and his kit to flow better with them. nothing wrong with your idea tho, but however eta for that is going to be years imo, who knows where us and the game will end up by that time

ooNerOooJun 5, 20191 votes

Both zz and ohm are aggressive as hell.

Ohmwrecker allows you to tower dive much easier, item sucks but still And zz allows you to be very offensive in the lanning phase giving you huge tower damage.

Seems pretty aggressive to me lmfao

0 HogapuJun 5, 20191 votes

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ZZRot for split pushing, Ohm for ,

I lol'd so hard wtf