Am I the only one that thinks Miss Fortune's Q bounce is too janky?

Danny DeVito·Sep 9, 2017·70 votes·4,094 views

I get hit by the bounce when it looks like it shouldn't hit me, and sometimes it looks like it should have blatantly hit me but it just doesn't. And it's INFURIATING, because she puts like 2 ranks in this spell and it starts dealing 1/3 of your HP every time you're hit by it!

Please note that I'm not saying the spell is OP or anything, I just wish there was some consistency so I could more easily tell where the bullet will end up.

29 Comments

Unironic SJWSep 10, 201714 votes

The thing is that MF's Q has a really complex targeting pattern.

"The second shot follows a priority order on targets within 500 units of the primary one:

Enemy or neutral units within a 20º cone.
Enemy or neutral units within a 40º cone.
Enemy or neutral units within a 110º cone.
Enemy or neutral units within 150 units in a 160º cone. "

Because nothing in game ever SHOWS the cone that the shot can affect, its somewhat hard for MF to position the shot to hit you, and for you to position to avoid the 2nd shot.

QuephaSep 10, 20176 votes

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Because nothing in game ever SHOWS the cone that the shot can affect, its somewhat hard for MF to position the shot to hit you, and for you to position to avoid the 2nd shot.

click casting it on MF shows the cone.

Kerrigan 4 PrezSep 10, 20172 votes

He may be referring to the cones of priority

5000000000000000Sep 11, 20171 votes

I thought they meant that the enemies can't see it.

LõyaltySep 10, 20179 votes

As many people have said before me, the targeting system is seriously complex. Nobody mentioned however that if you are tagged with her passive love tap, her bouncing q will specifically target you.

Danman123Sep 10, 20171 votes

Mind posting a source for this? I can't seem to find any recent ones. Also, I just tested it in the Practice Tool, and it doesn't seem to be prioritizing the target that's Love Tapped.

DemainaNyxSep 10, 20173 votes

I believe they removed it, but it used to work that way. You can see it in the old Wiki page here.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/V5.22

Double Up

On-kill bonus bounce damage is no longer classified as a critical strike.

With the removal of Impure Shots, Double Up's bounce will now prioritize Miss Fortune's most recently attacked target (i.e. the target carrying Love Tap's mark).

When they removed Impure Shot, making Love Tap her passive and making Strut her W, they kept this code for determining which target her Q hit.

Double Up's second shot follows a priority order on targets within 500 units of the primary one:

Enemy champions in a 40º cone with at least one Impure Shots stack ((or Love Tap)).

Minions and monsters within a 20º cone.

Enemy champions within a 20º cone.

Minions and neutral monsters within a 40º cone.

Enemy champions within a 40º cone.

Enemy or neutral units within a 110º cone.

Enemy or neutral units within 150 units in a 160º cone.

I know I used to abuse that fact after an auto trade for some bonus damage though. Kinda sad to see it's gone since it was something about her Q that made sense.

LõyaltySep 12, 20171 votes

Nope, just tested it in a match today. Her q will target you if you are marked with love tap and are within its radius. Its within the ability description I believe, if not, its just a secret trick at this point then.

DemainaNyxSep 12, 20171 votes

Good, cause I really liked that interaction.

SpookyNeedleSep 10, 20178 votes

Also bard Q

TheTwerkinatorSep 10, 201713 votes

as a bard it feels like it never lands

Fighting a bard, it feels like it's hitting me from the other fountain.

DemainaNyxSep 10, 20178 votes

Biggest thing about Bard Q is that the second part of it increase in length depending on how far away he was from you. So if he hits a max range Q, it will travel forever to find a second target. If he point blanks you, it will travel an inch.

But yes, Bard is much like the Our Yasuo vs Their Yasuo meme.

An Undead bratSep 10, 20171 votes

From the other fountain is still pretty okay, I remember running alongside a wall chased by Bard, him hitting a Q and the Q turning in the right angle to the wall and stunning me, lol.

TheMoralSupportSep 10, 20172 votes

Us, people who've played way too many bard games, don't know how the hitbox works either tbh...

Hexs FortuneSep 10, 20173 votes

she puts like 2 ranks in this spell and it starts dealing 1/3 of your HP

MF has the lowest base AD of all the ADC. The Q doesn't start to really hurt until she gets at least a couple of long swords

AmonTheFallenJul 10, 20181 votes

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MF has the lowest base AD of all the ADC. The Q doesn't start to really hurt until she gets at least a couple of long swords

Her passive though :)

ElipoSep 10, 20173 votes

To me it doesn't seem random at all:

The way it works is kinda like annie's q. If you were in range to receive the bounce once she "excecutes" q, then you'll receive the bounce even if you get away or flash while the bounce travels. If you weren't in range to get the bounce once she presses q but get in range while q is bouncing, then you'll get the bounce too.

Also the range is kinda like a cone and not a straight line. And its direction (or the range it covers?) depends on the direction mf's model is facing when she presses q but priiritices champions in range. If you play a bit mf you'll learn to avoid the bounce.

Hexs FortuneSep 10, 20171 votes

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To me it doesn't seem random at all:

The way it works is kinda like annie's q. If you were in range to receive the bounce once she "excecutes" q, then you'll receive the bounce even if you get away or flash while the bounce travels. If you weren't in range to get the bounce once she presses q but get in range while q is bouncing, then you'll get the bounce too.

Also the range is kinda like a cone and not a straight line. And its direction (or the range it covers?) depends on the direction mf's model is facing when she presses q but priiritices champions in range. If you play a bit mf you'll learn to avoid the bounce.

My experience is that if you can cancel the ricochet if you move away while the bullet is still traveling but before it hits its first target.

ABlueQuakerSep 10, 20173 votes

Generally, one of two things happen:

I'm playing MF and my Q doesn't even bounce off the minion onto the champion right behind it.
Enemy is playing MF and Q bounces at a fucking RIGHT ANGLE to hit me.

DSØSep 10, 20172 votes

Just bait it out

SanKakUSep 10, 20171 votes

I haven't noticed anything unusual about it while playing her, and I haven't reviewed replays of the distant past. My guess is that it could be another analog angle display bug, in this case I'm not sure if it matters.

The SoulforgedSep 10, 20171 votes

It was worse before. Now it makes some sense.

MorgManBasherSep 10, 20171 votes

I know what you mean as someone that likes playing MF and feels somewhat punished sometimes for the randomness of my Q thinking I lined it up perfect only for it to bounce to a minion.

I mean, she isn't in that great of a spot atm. Not really bad, but not that good either since she doesn't fit into the ardent censor non-sense that is currently meta atm.

You could build her crit/attack speed but really there is no reason to play her unless you go lethality otherwise you might as well be playing another ADC. So yeah, Q has to be strong otherwise she's just garbo.

Favorite MF builds are: item 3142 item 3147 item 3031 item 3094 item 3158 item 3033 or item 3071 item 3026 item 3156 or item 3151

I only go item 3151 item 3071 into hard lanes where I can't afford to be close to people, so I max e first and give them cancer....Mostly for Draven lanes. Kinda troll, but it works.

What Is SmiteSep 10, 20171 votes

This is my goto for MF: item 3147 item 3094 item 3031 item 3047

a russian girl Sep 10, 20171 votes

Yeah it just needs an indicator qol change

OtterlyLostSep 10, 20171 votes

I can attest that MF's Q bounce is janky as fuck. I was standing to the right, equal with a minion and that fucking thing went perpendicular to hit me. :/ But if I play her, it'll just bounce uselessly off the minion and not even hit anymore.

CowseedSep 10, 20171 votes

It's rarely that it doesn't hit but more so "wtf?? That hit?!?"