I'm all for some Rumble nerfs, but I think this is going too far Rito

HateDaddy··4 votes·1,200 views

Disclaimer: I realize this is PBE and nothing is final but this is also a place intended for feedback on both live and PBE changes. So if anyone has an issue with this post because it's only PBE, please see yourself out the door as you're not actually a person.

So yeah Rito, totally agree that Rumble probably needs some nerfs. I'm a bit hesistant to say though after MR just got buffed, not to mention bruiser buffs should bring him back down to earth some in top lane. But this, in particular his rank 3 ult having a 100 second CD, is probably too far. By in large, Rumbles late game relevance is basically invested in his ult. While he still does a decent amount of damage with Q, Rumbles late game is won and lost based on the usage of his ult. A slight CD increase is understandable, but a whole 25 seconds? Jesus Christ, that's freaking harsh.

Let's consider this, most champions late game will usually have access to their ults every 60-80 seconds. Whether this is a natural cooldown or cooldown decreased through CDR isn't relevant because Rumble is basically 1 of 2 champions that can't itemize CDR in this game (well he can its just very bad). So in reality, a 100 second CD ult with this considered is fucking gigantic. I would be fine with maybe an increase of 5-10 seconds on his rank 3 ult when you consider the increased CD on his rank 1/2 ults, which is justifiable given 1/2 rank ults probably still have him in lane phase and his lane power is largely invested in his Q, so the ult CD increase at level 1 reduces some of his all-in potential, or at the very least the spammability of it. That's fine, but I really think you should reconsider the rank 3 ult change. That's too far.

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Fadedpf2 votes

5 mr buffed on item 3102 item 3065 . Thats not a lot. Along with item 3190 aura being nerfed this minor cooldown nerf wont do anything to rumbles damage or Identity. Its literally just a higher cooldown.

HateDaddy2 votes

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5 mr buffed on item 3102 item 3065 . Thats not a lot. Along with item 3190 aura being nerfed this minor cooldown nerf wont do anything to rumbles damage or Identity. Its literally just a higher cooldown.

Spectres cowl was buffed to give 5 more MR as well, that's huge against a champion like Rumble in the early to mid game. And this is not a minor cooldown nerf, 25 seconds on a champion that cannot itemize CDR is fucking huge.

Fadedpf2 votes

Would you rather have his damage nerfed? I mean you can get at least 10% from runes and masteries. Also if this really does hurt him you could honestly buy item 3165 . The CDR and GW would probably benifit rumble massively the Mana regen part doesnt even matter. Its like going item 1056 on rumble. The item is so cost efficient there is no other way to get that many stats on rumble other than Doran ring, but it is considered troll because of the mana passives.

HateDaddy1 votes

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Would you rather have his damage nerfed? I mean you can get at least 10% from runes and masteries. Also if this really does hurt him you could honestly buy item 3165 . The CDR and GW would probably benifit rumble massively the Mana regen part doesnt even matter. Its like going item 1056 on rumble. The item is so cost efficient there is no other way to get that many stats on rumble other than Doran ring, but it is considered troll because of the mana passives.

Rumble. Can't. Itemize. CDR.

Do you understand how overheat works?

And a slight nerf to his Q would be much better, yes.

Fadedpf1 votes

Overheat is a resource you have to manage as a player. Due to his passive he does more damage in the danger zone, this is why rumbles spam to get over 50% to deal the most damage. But to say Rumble cant itemize for CDR or wont benefit from it is a lie. Assuming you are managing when you are over heating and unloading your combo in the danger zone. The faster you are able to use your Q and W the better. I understand spamming like this will make you overheat which is sometimes bad but CDR will give faster spells and on rumble that is good.

HateDaddy2 votes

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Overheat is a resource you have to manage as a player. Due to his passive he does more damage in the danger zone, this is why rumbles spam to get over 50% to deal the most damage. But to say Rumble cant itemize for CDR or wont benefit from it is a lie. Assuming you are managing when you are over heating and unloading your combo in the danger zone. The faster you are able to use your Q and W the better. I understand spamming like this will make you overheat which is sometimes bad but CDR will give more faster spells and on rumble that is good.

Rumbles CDs are already naturally low, the only thing CDR does is end up making him overheat himself more often, eventually doing less damage as he will be silenced. CDR is extremely inefficient on him, it's a bad stat for him to pick up. Please stop pretending otherwise.

Tritan1 votes

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Would you rather have his damage nerfed? I mean you can get at least 10% from runes and masteries. Also if this really does hurt him you could honestly buy item 3165 . The CDR and GW would probably benifit rumble massively the Mana regen part doesnt even matter. Its like going item 1056 on rumble. The item is so cost efficient there is no other way to get that many stats on rumble other than Doran ring, but it is considered troll because of the mana passives.

and to think this post was upvoted

im starting to lose my mind

M Schumacher1 votes

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Would you rather have his damage nerfed? I mean you can get at least 10% from runes and masteries. Also if this really does hurt him you could honestly buy item 3165 . The CDR and GW would probably benifit rumble massively the Mana regen part doesnt even matter. Its like going item 1056 on rumble. The item is so cost efficient there is no other way to get that many stats on rumble other than Doran ring, but it is considered troll because of the mana passives.

LOL.

Do you not realize how incredibly awful both of those items are on Rumble?

CDR is actually counter-intuitive on Rumble because his heat silences him when it reaches 100.. It's literally the dumbest stat you could itemize for. The ONLY situation I could EVER see getting a Morellos on him is if you are playing against multiple heal champions with NO OTHER AP or IGNITE on your team. Even that It's still pretty horrid.

LaceUp231 votes

This might come as a shocker to you, but you can use his abilities at the same rate, even with decreased CDs :O No way!!!!

LaceUp232 votes

Lmao, an increased CD on his ult is "going too far"? What the actual fuq? Just compare this to the nerfs that other champs received. He has been a great pick, and then all his AP items got buffed. I really don't think Rumble players are exactly worried about this.

HateDaddy2 votes

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Lmao, an increased CD on his ult is "going too far"? What the actual fuq? Just compare this to the nerfs that other champs received. He has been a great pick, and then all his AP items got buffed. I really don't think Rumble players are exactly worried about this.

It's a 25 second increase in cooldown, 25 seconds is an eternity in league of legends. The ability being on cooldown alone can be the difference in a baron, 5th dragon, siege, anti-siege etc. so in short, yes, a 25 second CD increase is enormous.

LaceUp231 votes

So just manage ult CD better? I don't think a 100 second CD is really that dramatic considering what his ulty does and considering all his items got buffed.

HateDaddy1 votes

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So just manage ult CD better? I don't think a 100 second CD is really that dramatic considering what his ulty does and considering all his items got buffed.

lol "just manage it better"

Rumble why the fuck didn't you ult? We needed that for this fight..

"Sorry just managing my cooldowns"

SaltyKracka2 votes

I think what you mean is;

"Why the fuck did you fight, my ulti was still on cooldown!"

It's not like there aren't other champs who don't want to itemize CDR and actually have cooldowns on their ultimates.

Or would you rather they nerf his Q?

HateDaddy1 votes

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I think what you mean is;

"Why the fuck did you fight, my ulti was still on cooldown!"

It's not like there aren't other champs who don't want to itemize CDR and actually have cooldowns on their ultimates.

Or would you rather they nerf his Q?

There are only 2-3 champions in this game who don't want to itemize CDR because it's bad. Energy champions naturally want to limit what they buy, yasuo has 2 abilities that don't even work with it, Rumble is another example of a champion who'd end up just silencing himself more than anything else. Most champions in this game don't have 100 second rank 3 ults and if they do; they have an easy avenue to CDR so it's really not that big of a deal. In all probability, they do end up buying CDR.

And yes, a slight nerf to Q would be better than this.

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

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There are only 2-3 champions in this game who don't want to itemize CDR because it's bad. Energy champions naturally want to limit what they buy, yasuo has 2 abilities that don't even work with it, Rumble is another example of a champion who'd end up just silencing himself more than anything else. Most champions in this game don't have 100 second rank 3 ults and if they do; they have an easy avenue to CDR so it's really not that big of a deal. In all probability, they do end up buying CDR.

And yes, a slight nerf to Q would be better than this.

CDR Akali is actually really op

LaceUp231 votes

Amumu Azir Bard Braum Cassiopeia Fiddlesticks Galio Gangplank

This is just through the first 30 champs. I have to go to work and don't have time for the rest. These people have about the same or longer CD on their ult. Your "why didn't you ult in that fight" argument doesn't hold much weight when his ult is now on par with so many others.

On a side note, you could build CDR if you wanted to. You bring up the whole, "but meh heat" thing, but that doesn't exactly matter. Say you use a spell once every 5 seconds. Just because that spell is off CD in 3 seconds doesn't mean you have to spam it now. You can literally use all his abilities the same rate even with decreased CDs.

46104328_DEL1 votes

Dude, everyone is getting a head kick of a buff. I think Riot is trying to die.

Only Play Darius1 votes

You know who else can't itemize CDR?

Katarina

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