Why does everyone hate on Sona?

only zhule·May 22, 2018·4 votes·2,608 views

So i've noticed that for some reason people in ranked game HATE having a support. Now i'm not talking picking Sona into a bad match up, i'm talking no champions picked on either team "could you play something other then Sona" or the player out right banning her despite my choice selection being clear. Can literally pick any other support, even off meta, and the player will generally shrug and be fine with it.... but try to play Sona and people flip their shit.

22 Comments

King of DemonsMay 22, 20184 votes

Because she either ends 0 17 or carries very hard, no inbetween. People prefer less volatile champs

Christopher RPhMay 22, 20184 votes

Q to poke enemy champion --- accidentally kills cannon minion.

D357R0Y3RMay 22, 20181 votes

champ makes the lane 1v2 for her adc

SpeeedyMay 22, 20181 votes

she is strong if you know how to play her, which most people don't. She is sleeper OP. Since I learned when to play her from a challenger 1 trick i think I have only lost 1 game on her, but then again my ADC didnt even do 5k damage in 23 minutes that game since he refused to hit the enemy team since he was mad I picked sona just as you said. She isnt the most hard champion mechanically but she has great value to a team. She has a stun with her ult, movement speed, and heals for days once you get 3 items. And if you take magical footware you really dont even need boots till much later.

McsquzzyMay 22, 20181 votes

I remember when I thought she was a bad champ. Then I read her passive and said NVM this shit op

only zhuleMay 23, 20181 votes

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I remember when I thought she was a bad champ. Then I read her passive and said NVM this shit op

the passive is sadly where most of her utility power rests ( i think at least). This is a problem because it means you have to get within auto attack range AND have the "right" passive active.... it seems really simple but it often means you can't cast a certain spell when you want to since it screws up your ability to land a different passive effect.

SpeeedyMay 23, 20181 votes

no just go hover outside of auto attack range then when they auto a minion you swoop in for a Q auto works like a champ

only zhuleMay 23, 20181 votes

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no just go hover outside of auto attack range then when they auto a minion you swoop in for a Q auto works like a champ

That doesn't work as well as you might think for a couple reasons. Even if you hover around 600 range you are still well within many supports range to harass you with their spells. Go much further and you will have a hard time harassing since you have to spend a second or two getting back into range. Given Sona's low base movement speed and lack of gap closer if the enemy engages on you, you are basically fucked. The other side of that is also due to those factors you often can't catch a fleeing opponent, much less have the passive effect linger long enough to make up for their built in gap closer. But most importantly, if you want a certain passive effect up (besides bonus damage) it means you either have to sit on the aura for a good 8-10 seconds OR not have the corresponding spell up for the fight.

EmpressOfBeautyMay 22, 20181 votes

Only reason I hate on her is when M7 Sona's flash their mastery and talk about you having no skill but they are using Sona...as if getting an S as a s support is hard or as if Sona requires much effort to play well? You click an ability you don't even need to click the champion you want to use it on. Only skillshot is her ult. That and the reason people see girls who like to play her as "egrils" or whatever. Like let people play who they want already. Gets on my nerves.

But anyways if that happens to you then dodge...it is rude of them to ban your champion. If not maybe ban theirs so they dodge?

Doge2020May 22, 20181 votes

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But anyways if that happens to you then dodge...it is rude of them to ban your champion. If not maybe ban theirs so they dodge?

If you or they dodge just because your champ got banned then you should reconsider what role you main. You should have a few go to champs for different roles just in case if somebody banes your first pick, if they are on your team or not. Sure it is rude of them to ban the champ you want to play, but dodging just because of that reason can also be rude.

McsquzzyMay 22, 20181 votes

This contradicts the tenants of the OTP and they are quite zealous in there faith

EmpressOfBeautyMay 24, 20181 votes

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If you or they dodge just because your champ got banned then you should reconsider what role you main. You should have a few go to champs for different roles just in case if somebody banes your first pick, if they are on your team or not. Sure it is rude of them to ban the champ you want to play, but dodging just because of that reason can also be rude.

Yeah but if they deliberately ban someone you were going to use, why play with them? They were rude first.

Pika FoxMay 22, 20181 votes

Her base stats are god awful to compensate for how loaded all her abilities are because of her 5 person auras, making her either roflstomp the enemy team or die faster than a minion.

She needs a proper rework to either be a proper aura support or remove the auras.

Doge2020May 22, 20181 votes

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Her base stats are god awful to compensate for how loaded all her abilities are because of her 5 person auras, making her either roflstomp the enemy team or die faster than a minion.

She needs a proper rework to either be a proper aura support or remove the auras.

One of the main things she needs is either a slight base HP buff or slightly more armor/MR. Her main problem as a short ranged poke champ is that she can get poked down by other poke champs very easily.

Pika FoxMay 22, 20181 votes

She cant get it. If anything her base stats need more of a nerf. She has too many team wide free stats for her to be allowed to do anything herself with any consistency outside of pressing R.

Doge2020May 22, 20181 votes

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She cant get it. If anything her base stats need more of a nerf. She has too many team wide free stats for her to be allowed to do anything herself with any consistency outside of pressing R.

Yeah but I was talking about her early game extreme squishyness. She has around 450 base health at lvl 1 if you don’t get any health items or runes at the start of the game. And I don’t think free armor/ MR is apart of any of her auras, her only team wide stats would be MS and heals. She can buy items to give a giant shield/heal to her team tho.

Pika FoxMay 22, 20181 votes

Shields and heals are effective health. She has the same issue bards had in ffxi; too many free stats to everyone else so they cant do anything themselves and making everything dull if theyre ever useful because theyre all that could ever be used in that support slot.