Can anyone explain how viable Veigar is anymore?

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Isn't that a good thing, ya know, an Ult not oneshotting by it's lonesome? I can't think of any Ult that isn't Nunu's that can oneshot someone by itself.

Pretty much any champ with a damaging ult can oneshot someone weak enough or if they are fed enough

With the shift to early mid game, scaling champions have been changed (Nasus) to have more impact. So a Nasus can get 400 stacks by 20 on an ability with a 1.5 CD which also stacks infinitely. With TF it gets to the 1 shot point very quickly and that's not an ULT.

Syndra ulti, heimer ulti (rockets), mordekaiser ulti, sadly enough teemo shrooms, there’s a lot more damage in the game than you think there is

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I'll have to try that out, any good links to viable builds, strats?

The strat is basically just to scale into the late game.

The free AP from your passive is more than enough to guarentee you'll still do great damage whilst being Tanky.

In the early game, only focus on getting stacks. That's your main objective, as it's going to be your primary offensive stats for later in the game.

For Runes take Domination and Resolve with Dark Harvest as your Keystone.

Dark Harvest helps execute people with your ult, and you'll slowly accrue stats as you scale with your passive.

Take Cheap Shot to synergize with your E, Eyeball Collection, and Ultimate Hunter to allow you to cast even more Ultimates.

In Resolve, take Overgrowth to stack up Health since you'll be farming most of the game, and then either take Conditioning or Bone Plating, depending on whether or not your match up is favourable. If it is, Conditioning, if it isn't, Bone Plating.

For builds I go with a core of and then situational.

Here's the items I usually build according to what the enemy team has:

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So you want to get them around the edge, any champion with over 355 move speed can get out of that, if not they are in the cage and can easily dodge the W with that much move speed. Veigar has 0 move speed and can't get far enough away to still cast and be safe because spells are so close range, so you're fucked when the cage ends unless you manage to clip them with something and even then all it takes a little MR unless you're stupid fed.

yah, he does badly into high mobility targets, it's no secret. But a champ without dashes can't prevent getting caged if you use GLP or Twin Shadows. And often they try to anyway, which makes them walk right into the wall as it forms.

His low mobility is balanced by his E mainly. Although his abilities are high damage only Q is somewhat dependable and it has a longish cooldown (compare to ezreal Q, for example). But even without nuke-level W + R damage Veigar isnt useless, because the cage offers so much utility. I sometimes like to get boots of mobility because casting his cage doesn't cause him to "enter combat" so he stays super zoomy.

Anyway, to summarize, yes I agree that Veigar has weaknesses in 1v1s, especaily versus mobile enemies. But his team fight ability is quite good regardless.