People complained about how Kalista was a melee bane and could infinitely kite, so why aren't people complaining about jhin who can gain 200 movespeed with an auto, and then ult from 3 screens away and dish out 3 kills in a teamfight with his ult?
Penns3 votesWell it might be because Jhin has no hard mobility and Kalista has a Kindred Q after every auto attack.
Handy Sandy 3 votesBecause you're only naming jhin's strengths and none of this weaknesses.
Astôlfo3 votesKalista can use Runaan's and Rend to have Rend nearly constantly up all the time, which means it's going to be a near inescapable slow if you're anywhere near a minion wave. And her dashing on every single auto means almost no other ADC could escape or chase her successfully.
Vision is incredibly powerful, as is the ability to instantaneously make a member of your team untargetable and let them dash in any direction, which leads into a massive knockup if sent into the enemy team.
She also had no AS limit like Jhin does, and unlike Jhin, Runaan's synergizes extremely well with her.
Jhin's MS only works on his crits (aka, only his fourth shots RELIABLY until 100% crit in lategame) or if he lands a root (an extremely thin, delayed, pre-indicated skillshot). His ult is dodgeable because it's an extremely thin skillshot and immobilizes him while doing it, and if he got 3 kills in a teamfight with his ultimate, that's the enemy team's fault/the rest of Jhin's team having good coordination, because the vast majority of his damage is from % missing health, meaning, it won't do jackshit unless he uses it as a finisher in terms of damage.
Anonagon1 votesJhin isn't toxic by design, he's just overpowered as shit right now with proper balancing he'll be a fine ADC with well defined strengths and weaknesses that doesn't shut out entire classes of champions with just his passive
Troy2426211 votesJhin's design is fantastic, he's just overtuned. He has clear strengths and weaknesses. He's excellent at picking people off, but you can jump down his throat and make him regret ever existing.
Kalista and Kindred are cancerous designs that do their best to eliminate all counterplay they possibly can while still having strengths to abuse.
