Rylai, and only Rylai
YOU HAVE to buff him in the same patch you're nerfing Rylai, else either you're: -ignoring him -pretending he isn't balanced around it
The 325 ms no mobility no cc champ has to stop being a thing especially when you're not rewarded by having something. Before he used to have a hiroshima bomb on Q, it's no longer the case and it made him "all or nothing"
Riot please, i'm a filthy yasuo main but i don't want my counters to be trash
Stars Shaper8 votesIt's really sad how Riot recently nerfed each and every Mordekaiser core item (
, 
and 
) without giving him other valid options for his build. he is forced into a nerfed state and building nerfed items, the reason is that if he gets anywhere near a balanced state (numerically talking) he gets impossible to beat in lane and a real pain later.
I don't know what more he needs to push on his real VGU.
Best princess EU2 votesmaybe they have to look at his base stats so he doesn't suck in early game
Stars Shaper1 votesThey did, they nerfed them. They reduced his base armor/hp/ms.
EROTIC RAID BOSS1 votessomehow he's still at a 50% win rate so its hard to feel super sorry for you lol.
I'm sure they'll be watching what goes on with the rylais changes, since its a big nerf to a lot of champions
Stars Shaper5 votesThat's because the few who play him know what to do, and when you know what to do Morde is something you simply can't kill while he will drain you slowly and then engage you for your soul.
Unless you have some1 who can keep him at bay constantly (aka ranged) while also poking him you are not having an easy time.
Edit: to sum it up, we all know that current Morde can't be made numerically viable, we just want Riot to acknowledge that his VGU has far higher priority.
dragon1xx2 votesSo MM is keeping morde winrate up.
GayFluffyUnicorn2 votesYou outright said it: the few who play him. 0,8%. Can we stop pretending that mordekaiser is yasuo or riven? He just isn't. He is toxic and oppressive and his current state when strong. It is a pity they failed his half assed rework. Welcome in the trashcan, it is not like morde is the only champ out here. It's really annoying coming to the boards seeing four morde posts every fucking day. Because EVERY post just repeats what has been posted in the last 2 months for a hundred times. We know it already but league doesn't revolve around morde and never will until he receives his full rework.
Spoofghoul2 votesCan we stop pretending that mordekaiser is yasuo or riven? He just isn't. He is toxic and oppressive
Now it's funny
Mordepool2 votesYou outright said it: the few who play him. 0,8%. Can we stop pretending that mordekaiser is yasuo or riven? He just isn't. He is toxic and oppressive and his current state when strong. It is a pity they failed his half assed rework. Welcome in the trashcan, it is not like morde is the only champ out here. It's really annoying coming to the boards seeing four morde posts every fucking day. Because EVERY post just repeats what has been posted in the last 2 months for a hundred times. We know it already but league doesn't revolve around morde and never will until he receives his full rework.
You don't read the posts clearly or pay attention to the fact that prior to today we haven't had 1in 17 days
Mordepool1 votes[{quoted}](name=Monado II,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=f2kXimnW,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2016-11-24T16:12:05.898+0000)
somehow he's still at a 50% win rate so its hard to feel super sorry for you lol.
I'm sure they'll be watching what goes on with the rylais changes, since its a big nerf to a lot of champions
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EROTIC RAID BOSS1 voteshis win rate isn't so low mid, like 49% or something on champ.gg
I'm not bothered either way if he's only good in one lane, that's how it is for pretty much everyone else. I wonder what garen's win rate in the jungle is? like jesus, who'd have thought a guy with no mobility or cc or sustain that works in the jungle would be a bad jungler?
ShaolinToilet2 votesThe real question is why do people on the boards even care about morde.
Big Lincoln4 votesrevert mord pls
xBushx3 votesMake his AOE not sure what skill it is have longer range like Camille W. Also make the slow stringer for that ability.
Decimús2 votesWILL YOU STOP POSTING THESE THREADS ALREADY ? Its obvious , just stop it -.-
Rıots Bad Client1 votesit is obvious?
If that was the case why havn't there been any change for him?
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesCuz noone gives a crap about mordekaiser. It is sad as it is but morde rework failed. His kit is still a toxic shit slightly above nuclear waste. Rylais won't have that big of an effect on him. It's just another attempt to cry for morde buffs. As the 5 morde mains in NA/EUW proposed for 3 months already.
EROTIC RAID BOSS1 votescus he doesn't need any?
A Basic Island1 voteshonestly, i don't really have TOO much of a problem with my morde once i get gunblade, and some mitigation.
rylais has always and will always be a build near the end type of item, been playing that way since S2 when i could stack over 80% spell vamp :|
I much prefer to slap on a gunblade and some mitigation and have them come to me and fight me in my face and then be like "OH FUCK HE TANKY AF" and then die to the twamp, or have my allies receive the glory while i get the ghost
EROTIC RAID BOSS1 votesthey can look at him the patch after the change. he's not the only champion who relies very heavily on the item I'm sure others will need follow up buffs too.
Igglet1 votesSanji fanboy is a very funny way to spell Malicious Metal.
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Skias1 votesMordekaiser is also a hot mess besides Rylais. Rylais is like the glue holding together a broke. Vase with missing pieces and shit. He needs to be remade.
WiegrafOfValor1 votesI think Riot should just drop the 3-hit Q gimmick and bring back a single powerful Q as it was before..
It's ok to use everything to get to someone, if you can at least burst them, but it's a pain in the ass, if after all the trouble to get to them you also need to stick for several seconds, as someone with the lowest base MS of the entire game, just to land your combo..
HazyCloud71 votesThe funny thing is that I thought they were going to nerf the item with him in mind. Not just make the item suck for everybody other than Brand and Zyra support.
Imperial Japan1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sanji fanboy,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=f2kXimnW,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-11-24T14:24:23.796+0000)
Rylai, and only Rylai
YOU HAVE to buff him in the same patch you're nerfing Rylai, else either you're: -ignoring him -pretending he isn't balanced around it
The 325 ms no mobility no cc champ has to stop being a thing especially when you're not rewarded by having something. Before he used to have a hiroshima bomb on Q, it's no longer the case and it made him "all or nothing"
Riot please, i'm a filthy yasuo main but i don't want my counters to be trash
To be fair a lot of Mordes build protobelt too/first
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesThere is no need to buff morde because of the rylais nerf. There is just none. It is still a tanky option, it still gives slows. All it does is it loses a bit of the slow, okay and some AP. If you want to build full glass cannon there is still gunblade for a slow and other items or you know what? Do what illaoi players have to do: Wait for your team to slow/CC them before you can get in. But somehow the few morde circlejerk club members delude themselves acting like morde is the worst champ in the whole game because of his base stats. Rylais btw will be 600 gold cheaper. If that is no powerspike idk.
TheIronRevenant1 voteshe's so good he has a sub 1% pick rate across the board right? right?
Mordepool1 votesThere is no need to buff morde because of the rylais nerf. There is just none. It is still a tanky option, it still gives slows. All it does is it loses a bit of the slow, okay and some AP. If you want to build full glass cannon there is still gunblade for a slow and other items or you know what? Do what illaoi players have to do: Wait for your team to slow/CC them before you can get in. But somehow the few morde circlejerk club members delude themselves acting like morde is the worst champ in the whole game because of his base stats. Rylais btw will be 600 gold cheaper. If that is no powerspike idk.
And it lost 800 gp worth of stats and half the slow. Please stop talking
LordBrasca1 votesI'm gonna throw this here, i don't know if it's a good idea but i wanna try anyways.
What if.... Morde W could be placed on enemies and you would gain movement speed while moving towards them? Obviously he will get the damage only if you get close enough to him to cross both the W. This would solve his mobility problem while chasing off targets i think?
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesthats not a good way to work with champs. will result in unehealthy. he needs bigger work .sorta like shyvanna or alistar
TeCoolMage1 votesThere's usually a 1 patch delay between compensation and a change so the effects can be measured
and so the changes don't seem revolve around that one champion skewing the win and play rates as everyone and their mother floods ranked and blind pick with mordekaiser.
If Mordekaiser got some sort of buff the same patch Rylai's got nerfed there would be an annoying amount of new players lowering the win rate of Mordekaiser. By changing Rylai's only and letting Mordekaiser be the same, Riot uses the very basic principle of a controlled variable and lets Mordekaiser play with only those changes having an immediate impact, the play and ban rates and average playerbase games remain fairly similar for one patch where the Rylai's change is in effect. It's also why follow up tends to be one or two patches away once the buff hits, play rates change as the patch notes bring attention to the champion and Riot waits for it to die down.
Anyways Mordekaiser mains should be glad as being overtuned in the same patch they get a nerf means they're lumped into the Syndra, Yasuo, Riven, etc club.
The Sword Saint1 votesStormraiders already makes him a sticky piece of shit that guaranteed to get all his qs.