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In what world is Fiora balanced?

datfatguy··33 votes·11,385 views

You die to her once, and the game is over because she will just harass you to the point where it's impossible to even defend your lane anymore. Then she destroys half of your turret after your first back thanks to her Q and E which now damage turrets, and the demolish rune (remove this please it's actually ridiculously overpowered I don't think people realise). Then, after that, once she has already reached 2 items while you're struggling to buy 1, she duels you with ease thanks to her constant dashes and her heal from her ultimate and just her insane damage output all together. Let's not forget her W which is one of the dumbest abilities I have seen. She blocks ALL damage from ANY direction, as well as blocking spells AND stunning you for 2 seconds. 2 FUCKING SECONDS. In this meta, where damage is through the roof, a 2 second STUN is insane and pretty much renders you useless whether you're in lane or in a teamfight.

Then late game she becomes this split-pushing monster who is practically impossible to duel unless you're fucking Jax or something. This champion was already oppressive enough in all stages of the game but you decided to buff her even more because according to you "she struggles to convert her lane victories into game victories". What? Fucking, what? She is one of the most snowbally champions in the game, but that's not enough for you because of LC$ or whatever. Nerf this champion I'm sorry but she was already strong enough and you decide to make her pretty much impossible to beat during any stage of the game.

34 Comments

Cadynn27 votes

she isn't balanced, riot just wants to see her at worlds [slayer-jinx-wink]

A girl Supp Main1 votes

In what world is she balanced? World's 2019, of course.

Neptunia xoxo13 votes

Fiora is indeed a toxic cancer champion that nearly no one wants to play against top lane. You can't build against her and she out scales majority of champs 1v1 level 14 but the only good thing is if shes not ahead and she tries to team fight she can die instantly or someone like Trynd or Jax or Yi can easily destroy her 1v1 once they have some items.

preternatural9 votes

lol but we already said she would be super strong with her 2 years worth of buffs prior to this one. the saving grace is that she at least now has a balance direction so she doesn't have to be given more dmg for free now.

Ben SwoIo8 votes

In no world. I seriously think Riot has lost their fuckin minds. They seem to randomly buff people without even CONSIDERING how strong they already are. Fiora WAS NOT busted but not weak. She was very playable. Why fuck with her at all? Why buff her? I just don't understand Riot's thinking anymore. I really feel like they toss names in a hat and buff whoever they pull. They NEVER nerf anyone who actually deserves nerfs (cough Pykecough). But they sure as shit will buff Riven for some sorry ass prestige skin or LeeSin for some stupid ass worlds tournament that most people don't care about.

Lovelle1 votes

I'm fairly certain it has to do with how profitable the champ is. Fiora has some expensive skins, along with a lot of the popular champs you often see, that's why they get special treatment, so people buy their skins.

Zlera5 votes

Her stun only hits you if you try to CC her. If youre playing jax and counterstrike, and she parries the counterstrike then its your own damn fault.

mark602818 votes

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Her stun only hits you if you try to CC her. If youre playing jax and counterstrike, and she parries the counterstrike then its your own damn fault.

I don't even need to look at your profile.

Fiora doesn't need to stun anything toplane against the likes of jax. Hitting her W point blank and destroying your attack speed for 2,5 fuckin seconds is enough to win literally every duel against non combo bruisers.

Z3SIeeper3 votes

Takes some serious skill to play Fiora, parry literally nothing and absolutely destroy your opponent's primary method of fighting back.

420 grams2 votes

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I don't even need to look at your profile.

Fiora doesn't need to stun anything toplane against the likes of jax. Hitting her W point blank and destroying your attack speed for 2,5 fuckin seconds is enough to win literally every duel against non combo bruisers.

It's literally one of the easiest skillshots in the game to dodge. That's like complaining Swain W is too strong because you eat all of them.

420 grams2 votes

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Her stun only hits you if you try to CC her. If youre playing jax and counterstrike, and she parries the counterstrike then its your own damn fault.

That means that I played wrong, and I don't like that so she's an op broken champion dominating those 49% of games she's winning

only luciano2 votes

Champs that beat her

  1. Nasus
  2. Yorick
  3. Gnar
  4. Kayle
  5. Rammus
  6. Tryndamere
Mihalikb13 votes

A Fiora who hasn't killed Nasus 3 times before level 6 or utterly and totally zoned him out of all farm and got a little 30 CS lead is literally mentally challenged. After lvl 6 you do the same thing every else has to do against Nasus. Don't 1v1.

Who the fuck plays Rammus toplane?

The other ones do counter her.

As does Mordekaiser by the way.

KVbqbFsC8e3 votes

You'd have to be one terrible Nasus player for that to happen.

only luciano2 votes

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A Fiora who hasn't killed Nasus 3 times before level 6 or utterly and totally zoned him out of all farm and got a little 30 CS lead is literally mentally challenged. After lvl 6 you do the same thing every else has to do against Nasus. Don't 1v1.

Who the fuck plays Rammus toplane?

The other ones do counter her.

As does Mordekaiser by the way.

Fiora can trade with nasus pre-6 but not kill him cause of his sustain And he outscales her anyways. It's near impossible die early if you just mad E first as nasus and just farm like that. If she chases you then just wither her.

Mihalikb1 votes

As Fiora take Grasp and Sudden Death. Hard freeze wave. If he E clears the wave he is not getting stacks and is pushing the wave into you. Any time he tries to come in for a Q then you hit him, preferably into a vital but if not just to proc Grasp.

Pyrosan6 votes

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Champs that beat her

  1. Nasus
  2. Yorick
  3. Gnar
  4. Kayle
  5. Rammus
  6. Tryndamere

nasus no yorick no gnar beats most melee champions but not fiora due to her mobility kayle yes rammus no tryndamere yes because his kit is "survive me for 6 seconds or lose" lol

only luciano2 votes

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nasus no yorick no gnar beats most melee champions but not fiora due to her mobility kayle yes rammus no tryndamere yes because his kit is "survive me for 6 seconds or lose" lol

-nasus outscales her and can just wither her if he gets into trouble and can just max E to farm until lvl 7 or 8 with sheen -yorick outscales her and has no CC for her to parry, hopefully you are playing on the current patch cuz Fiora has a 48.5% win rate against Yorick.

  • gnar has mobility as well and can kite due to his slow and passive AS.
  • rammus with thornmail is any AD worst nightmare even Vayne
Pyrosan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=only luciano,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ezyEANBy,comment-id=000500010000,timestamp=2019-10-01T11:17:34.707+0000)

-nasus outscales her and can just wither her if he gets into trouble and can just max E to farm until lvl 7 or 8 with sheen -yorick outscales her and has no CC for her to parry, hopefully you are playing on the current patch cuz Fiora has a 48.5% win rate against Yorick.

  • gnar has mobility as well and can kite due to his slow and passive AS.
  • rammus with thornmail is any AD worst nightmare even Vayne

yorick having a 51.5% winrate into fiora isn't impressive and you shouldn't be using winrate comparisons when he has a less than 1.5% pickrate lol yorick also does have CC for her to parry, Yorick's cage on the edge CC's them into the middle so if she parries that there's your CC and no, yorick doesn't outscale fiora, yorick gets progressively weaker after 25 minutes. i'm saying this from the perspective of a yorick main and you're welcome to look at any website

nasus outscaling him doesn't make him a counter, lots of other champions outscale fiora, using the same argument ryze counters fiora - nasus's is a midgame monster, not a late game monster, 1000 stacks isn't going to mean much into today's meta because of how much mobility most chmapions have besides if you don't make nasus go 0/3 at 6 minutes you're just playing the game wrong anyway

rammus is not a counterpick because we're talking about top lane matchups, rammus is not played toplane apart from in bronze where it can work 20% of the time rammus also doesn't have enough solo damage to deal with fiora once she has ravenous/dd which is usually what she builds first so unless you're picking him in the jg to be considered a counter to her than ya it's not gonna work

only luciano1 votes

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yorick having a 51.5% winrate into fiora isn't impressive and you shouldn't be using winrate comparisons when he has a less than 1.5% pickrate lol yorick also does have CC for her to parry, Yorick's cage on the edge CC's them into the middle so if she parries that there's your CC and no, yorick doesn't outscale fiora, yorick gets progressively weaker after 25 minutes. i'm saying this from the perspective of a yorick main and you're welcome to look at any website

nasus outscaling him doesn't make him a counter, lots of other champions outscale fiora, using the same argument ryze counters fiora - nasus's is a midgame monster, not a late game monster, 1000 stacks isn't going to mean much into today's meta because of how much mobility most chmapions have besides if you don't make nasus go 0/3 at 6 minutes you're just playing the game wrong anyway

rammus is not a counterpick because we're talking about top lane matchups, rammus is not played toplane apart from in bronze where it can work 20% of the time rammus also doesn't have enough solo damage to deal with fiora once she has ravenous/dd which is usually what she builds first so unless you're picking him in the jg to be considered a counter to her than ya it's not gonna work

What world does Yorick fall off? If he does after 25 mim then why does he become a split push menace like Tryndamere? I'm looking at the websites and data and again they say Yorick wins. I'm not trying to say you're bad at the match up but with his ult up you should beat Fiora. The pick rate is still high enough for websites to tell you that Yorick still wins the match. And Are you going to also disregard the match up between Urgot and Riven where he wins 53% of the time even though he has less than a 1.5% pick rate? If there wasn't enough data then it wouldn't be listed, for example Kalista top verses Maokai.

Late game is Nasus's design. A 1000 stack Nasus will instantly delete a Fiora. And also we are only talking about Fiora vs Nasus, not against other mobility champs. And again, the data says Fiora has a 48% win rate against him for a reason. Making a decent Nasus go O/3 at 6 minutes is very difficult with his kit design. You try to freeze the wave he can just E it and maybe Q it to make it reset faster. You try to chase him he'll wither you. You trade with him he'll just sustain back up. You know that Nasus has better sustain than Fiora especially if he brought Resolve runes with him. He has a very safe kit. Making Kayle go 0/3 is alot easier because she is way more squishy than Nasus, practically no sustain, has no wave clear to reset waves, and has a skill shot slow that is not as strong as Nasus. Nasus's slow also reduces attack speed where Kayle's doesn't.

14daysuspensionk2 votes

Just put a baguette over her sword, then it won't be sharp.

A girl Supp Main1 votes

just Dodge if she don't pick pool party dude.

Thefrostyviking2 votes

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Just put a baguette over her sword, then it won't be sharp.

You´ll be beaten to death by a French lady swinging a baguette who didnt get the memo about surrendering instead, your armor doing just about nothing to save you.

I´d rather she just kill me with the sword instead ._.

Ahri Baka2 votes

Isn't that like most of top laners? You telling me those Riven Jax Pantheon Kayle Kled Renekton Darius Tryndamere Vladimir Mordekaiser and others? Die to them once and I dare you to lane against them ( Maybe except Kayle thanks her early not being that strong )

FioraWillCarry2 votes

Seriously? Fiora of all champions? Is that who we're crying about now? Let me clear things up. FIORA NEEDED BUFFS AND MAY STILL NEED EVEN MORE.

If all the people crying about her would actually bother to learn the game, you'd realize she isn't anywhere close to being overpowered. You want to win a match vs Fiora? GROUP GROUP GROUP. Fiora is the most "win lane lose game" champion in the game on account of how utterly useless she is in team fights. All she does in team fights is clean up. She ain't doing shit if her team can't win the fight. It doesn't matter if she goes 4-0 in lane when the rest of her team hard feeds. She is not carrying that.

You want to hard win lane vs Fiora? Malphite, Nasus

You want to have a good chance of winning lane vs Fiora? Urgot, Yorick, Jax, Vladimir Teemo - vs inexperienced Fioras

You want to hard counter Fiora from the jungle? MasterYi

You want to soft counter Fiora from the jungle? Amumu, Sejuani, Zac

You want to split push better than Fiora? Tryndamere, Jax, Nasus

So there you go. Stop making these ridiculous threads and actually complain about shit that makes sense like Yasuo who has no weaknesses in the hands of a sufficiently skilled player.

Sinister Anubis1 votes

I mean I play her and feed so idk

Magnesium144 votes

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I mean I play her and feed so idk

She's hard to play but that doesn't make her weak. That's not an excuse for her being broken.

xelaker1 votes

In the LEAGUE OF LEGENDS!

Sucction1 votes

Sadly she is technically "balanced" according to their metrics.

She's total cancer to play against though and really needs a rework

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/rant or stats.

RyzeRework1 votes

shes not really op.. well i mean now she is but before buffs she couldnt do much in teamfights and her split pushing was super meh

Lovelle1 votes

In elite/upper class pro land she's considered "okay" at best. For the rest of us, she's a nightmare that keeps getting buffed every other patch. Passively snowballs and if she gets one kill you lose lane, even if she started out 0/3.

The thigh guy1 votes

She isn’t balanced. Riot just wants to ensure no tanks see pro play because they’ve made it VERY clear they want tanks gone in this game.

Shahamut1 votes

2019 worlds

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