Azir needs some major overhaul/nerfs

Rexxiee··3 votes·313 views

Late game hyper carry with a good laning phase is just not something thath can exist.

He even has mobility AND waveclear, like if this champion is up why would you pick anything else mid lane?

He needs to one of those :

  • Lose his mobiliy/survivability
  • Lose his burst (Q doesnt do damage anymore, just reposition)
  • Lose a good amount of base stats (maybe make it so he has low base hp and very low armor scaling), so he actually becomes actually weak early game for his scaling/able to be punished by stronger laners.
  • Lose his waveclear (make his soldiers AA single target)

Until something like that happens, he'll still be a fundamentally broken champion with no way to be balanced.

8 Comments

ZephyrDrake3 votes

in other words OP lost to an Azir, now he is salty and wants him to become a joke that you would never pick since there would be no point whatsoever to pick him over anyone else regardless of anything

Rexxiee2 votes

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in other words OP lost to an Azir, now he is salty and wants him to become a joke that you would never pick since there would be no point whatsoever to pick him over anyone else regardless of anything

Its not my opinion, pretty much every high elo player agrees with this.

Azir kit still has too much in it and he needs, just like zoe on pbe, lose parts of his kit.

If azir is going to scale this hard at such high range WITH mobility he needs to have complete dumpster early game, like 80 hp p/lvl with a low base health and .5 armor per level down from 3, so you can actually abuse him before he scales into the 1v9 machine at 1000 range that dps/bursts you down with a dash and team wide disengage.

ZephyrDrake2 votes

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Its not my opinion, pretty much every high elo player agrees with this.

Azir kit still has too much in it and he needs, just like zoe on pbe, lose parts of his kit.

ok... and? "every high elo player" in other words you found one or two people that wants this so that means "every high elo player" ok

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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If azir is going to scale this hard at such high range WITH mobility he needs to have complete dumpster early game, like 80 hp p/lvl with a low base health and .5 armor per level down from 3, so you can actually abuse him before he scales into the 1v9 machine at 1000 range that dps/bursts you down with a dash and team wide disengage.

so... why would i pick him over anyone then? i could just pick any other mage that scales just as well without having to deal with a terrible early game... or do you want his late game even stronger?

Rexxiee2 votes

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so... why would i pick him over anyone then? i could just pick any other mage that scales just as well without having to deal with a terrible early game... or do you want his late game even stronger?

Azir is already by far the strongest hyper carry in the game late game.

He can literally win games outright, not even adcs hyper carries can do that as those are reliant on their team for peel late game.

Azir has 1k range dash, aoe wall, 1k range aoe autos with slows, he can actually 1v5 games after 4 items like no other champion can.

Only fair for him to have an appropriate trash early game.

If you played a high diamond game against someone who actually plays azir you'd understand what im talking about, and you'd see how broken it is.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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Azir is already by far the strongest hyper carry in the game late game.

He can literally win games outright, not even adcs hyper carries can do that as those are reliant on their team for peel late game.

Azir has 1k range dash, aoe wall, 1k range aoe autos with slows, he can actually 1v5 games after 4 items like no other champion can.

Only fair for him to have an appropriate trash early game.

If you played a high diamond game against someone who actually plays azir you'd understand what im talking about, and you'd see how broken it is.

"i don't like this champion so please make it so that he is unplayable trash rito!" is essentially what you are saying

Barkley1 votes

Didn't azir literally JUST get nerfed?

Rexxiee1 votes

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Didn't azir literally JUST get nerfed?

Nerfing his Q cd by 4s at rank 1 only did not fix any of his fundamental level issues with his kit.

shocker!

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