Most of the items in the game are balanced, it's the champions that abuse them that is the problem.

Hibeki··7 votes·884 views

The only truly broken items in the game are item 3116 item 3071 item 3036 item 3147 and arguably item 3157 item 3142

The problem with Rylais is that the premium stats mean that a lot of carries would get the item solely because of the stat bonuses. The slows are a whole other story.

Rylais is so abusable because of the DOT portion and the AOE portion. The AOE portion has the duration halved, but that doesn't mean anything. Most AOE's have lingering effects Rumble Morgana Viktor for example means the duration cut is absolutely nothing. They don't feel it at all. They still get the slow for the full duration of the AOE at the same potency. Coupled with the fact that you can follow it up with potentially 3 other abilities that also slow, this is too much.

Fix: Keep the numbers as is for stat boosts. Bring the AOE slow down to 20% and the duration back to 2 seconds. Theres now a debuff on each champion effected by the rylais slow saying they cannot be effected by rylais slow for another 7 or 8 seconds or so. This keeps the slow and adds a cc, but doesn't give you a free permaslow for buying the item.

Black Cleaver lies in the passive. Reducing enemy armor by 30% means that youre gonna hurt from this item alone. It's why juggs can buy this item and wreck face, because the stats from the item insure that they will be pumping out loads of damage.

Pre buff this thing had nowhere near this much overloaded stats. It has everything a bruiser wants. Sticking power, Health, AD, half the max cdr on one item, and armor shred.

Fix: Either vastly lower the armor shred, or remove the rage proc altogether, and put the cdr down to 10%.

Dominik's....I'm speechless.

If you're a tank, and they buy this item, you might as well sell your tank items and go damage. Buying this item just means they cut through you like butter. We have tons of % damage increase in the game through masteries and items (There's even a 10% boost ON THE ITEM.) , we don't need to ignore half the damage resistances too. That needs treated. I don't know an appropriate fix without completely gutting this item.

And Duskblade, is gonna get changed preseason.

Items like Frozen Mallet and Trinity force aren't broken in themselves, it's because of the champions who abuse it. Try building Trinity force on anyone that doesn't instantly apply the on hit effect and back off effectively. This is because stupid champions like Ezreal Gangplank Irelia Yasuo exist and the item basically just gives their poke a 200% bonus ad ratio. Imagine that. This really good stat item, just gives your primary poke option a 200% bonus ad ratio. That would never make it past testing.

It's because the item itself isn't broken, other champs haave to commit somewhat to get that item damage off. Nope, its just the select few who abuse it this way.

Frozen mallet isn't broken because for the most part it's lackluster in stats and the only reason you build it is to abuse the slow. The only champion I can think of who can't totally abuse it to it's limit who would build it and not have a wasted slot would be Olaf. No this item is busted because champs like Yasuo Gnar are completely and totally unkiteable, with countless mobility, dashes, and already existing slows and hard cc, yet they are primary auto attack based, so these champions assure that you 100% will not get away without flashing.

It's not the items. The only broken items are the four mentioned. If something is broken, it's because someone's abusing it. You don't throw the gun in jail for killing someone, you throw the person using it.

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Penns2 votes

How are item 3036 item 3157 and item 3147 broken tho lel.

Hibeki4 votes

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How are item 3036 item 3157 and item 3147 broken tho lel.

Negating half of someones resistances while also maintaining a damage boost just for being squishy on an item below 3k gold is busted.

Zhonyas isn't as bad as it used to be with the AP nerf, but the fact that the item alone can just nullify an assassin role if they go for you is absurd. It's super abused by champions that can still do stuff with it out like Fiddlesticks, Swain, Rumble, etc. who all still heal and deal damage despite being out of the game by all measures.

How is duskblade broken? Really?

Netherlife1 votes

"You don't throw the gun in jail for killing someone, you throw the person using it."

Using this analogy didn't you contradict everything you just said? o-o

But anyway Domonik's Regards came in at a time when it was needed. Tank meta was being abused and getting out of control. Don't be surprised if it gets nerfs sometime soon.

Big Lincoln1 votes

cleaver changes are a terrible idea, it's meant to be a core item for juggernauts to compliment their kits; it got changed to be a good item for everyone

Reducing enemy armor by 30% means that youre gonna hurt from this item alone.

after getting all 6 stacks on someone.

the 30% armor shred is actually a lot less important than you would think until armor values get very high; come mid game it might only be a 10% damage increase to tanks and other bruisers. Juggernauts don't build any other penetration items, usually, to take advantage of the shred so it's all they have to go on.

a better solution is to return it to 30 AD and 500 health, because the real abusers of this item are ADCs and assassins. the lower AD would hurt their damage considerably but not be too damning for juggernauts.

Mister Modesty1 votes

Thresh item 3085 This is literally abuse. I've got Thresh's Attack Speed so high, that his attacking animation glitches.

I tested this out when I found out why my Relic Shield wasn't working well with Thresh.. he's ranged. So why not try some ranged items?

Ralanr1 votes

The title makes me think we should remove all champions and just have item fights.

I'm incredibly tired. Sorry.

Hyperiön1 votes

Honestly, Rylais isn't broken. its just the champs who have dots that it synergises very well with.

Out of all the items you listed, the only item that is broken is Youmuu's. It has one of the highest gold efficiency in the game, the build path makes it superior to almost every first item.

Honestly, the reason there is so much damage creep in the game, is because Riot keeps adding, CDR, Apen, Lifesteal to everything.

Maw, doesn't need Apen, QSS doesn't need lifesteal. Zhonyas, doesn't need CDR. Essence Reaver's passive is buted.

Not to mention, the old items that used to be amazing, got nerfed, and their price raised (looking at you Bork).

Riot just needs to simmer down with giving every item 5 stats and 2 passives.

Why can't things just be simple.

This item, 50AD 10% LS, 75AP on this item, 350 mana.

80 Armor, 300 health.

It is so simple to have items not breaking the game, but Riot wan'ts to make the games shorter and shorter each year. Lets go back to season 3/4 where things were fun, and probably the most balanced the game has been (Aside from wriggles and devourer)

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