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So, Patch 8.23 notes are out, and honestly it's depressing to read

melior sum··2 votes·1,171 views

Turret changes are like okay, that's some shit we've been asking about for like a year and a half. Cool, thanks for implementing it, big plus

But where are the champion balance changes?

Irelia nerfs? Urgot nerfs? Pyke nerfs? Akali changes? No?

Okay, well I guess I'm suppose to be happy with getting stat choices back, you know, the same exact system that we were using for about 5 years before runes reforged.

But oh wait, they finally gave Lissandra a passive after working on it for like 8 months, 8 fucking months

Like what the fuck were you guys doing leading up to pre season in the balance department?

I realize that Riot said this would be a soft patch, and that they're waiting for the system changes to take effect to see who to nerf/buff, but honestly, I don't see this patch shaking anything up.

Such a fucking let down

Why is the balance team so fucking afraid to throw a shit ton of changes in the pre season to shake stuff up? WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF TELL ME

Like I'm speechless beyond this point, a whole fucking season of issues and terrible balance with the exception of 3 or 4 patches, and I was so hopeful for pre season, and it's just like, great, this is useless.

16 Comments

Rester4 votes

It's preseason, they're waiting until after this patch to really start tuning champions.

melior sum3 votes

You mean, waiting for the time slot where they can say, "we're waiting to gather more data until mid season to make any big changes"?

TheSnowyLeopard3 votes

If they do that every year, why are you complaining?

disregardable2 votes

These turret changes actually seem awful.

Why do they want games to last longer? Why do they want to diminish the impact of winning lane? That just makes the game worse...

xDelightifyx1 votes

Oneshot meta and 15 min games make the game worse.

disregardable1 votes

no dude. trust me.

there is nothing less fun than a 40+ minute league of legends game.

Doge20201 votes

Well then that is either/both of the team’s fault for not closing the game correctly when they were at their most powerful point and not letting the other team even the game again.

If you are an assassin and the game goes until 40+ min then either you did something wrong and didn’t close out the game or the enemy team stalled correctly and outplayed you to help them scale up.

While I agree that 40+ min games aren’t that enjoyable, there has statistically been enough games that are 15 to 25 min, and also Riot doesn’t like that games can tend to be very one sided with the out come being decided in the first 5 min. So Riot is changing turrets and shutdown to help teams that are behind to make a comeback while also still keeping options for those ahead to close the game.

Idk if this change came with 8.23 but on the PBE a little while ago Riot was testing shorter spawn times for the minion waves and for the jungle camps. It would lightly counter the increase in game length from the turret changes and it will also make it harder for invades to correctly be pulled off.

xDelightifyx1 votes

maybe as assasine main, cause the Champs u play get useless then. Sad that u cant oneshot 3k hp tanks anymore :'( (like you should not be able to, in the first place). In my opinion there is notbing worse, than a game, that is decided in the first 2 mins.

Dark Nephthys1 votes

Because it's not fun to lose a turret from full hp in 1 push because you died (or Recalled/Teleported) when the enemy jungler just happens to be near. Or in some cases the laner can do it by themselves from full HP in 1 push.

Step Sis Lux1 votes

Pyke nerfs? Bro are u high? Im sure riot gonna buff him cuz for them he is not cancerous enought

melior sum2 votes

Nah, he needs another scaling damage portion to his ultimate

every 10 armor is 2 more points of damage on ultimate

NEEDS MORE BANG BRO

TheSnowyLeopard1 votes

I dont think they WANT to shale things up. The meta at the moment is better balanced then it has been since season 4. Shaking things up would ruin the balance a little too much. Sure, some people could maybe use some nerfs but as you said, its a soft patch.

melior sum5 votes

The meta is fine? Really?

You enjoy the fact that mid/top/jungle are completely dominated by 4 picks? (Irelia/Akali/Camille/Leblanc)

TheSnowyLeopard4 votes

Its not, thats completely your opinion. I play graves/rengar/sejuani in jungle. Ive never played any of those picks jg. And leblanc is a little unbalanced, so i perma ban her, i dont care about akali or irelia.

So yea, im extremelly satisfied by the meta

SithesisLord1 votes

They don´t want to shake things up.....in a period of the year they reserve especially for shaking things up.

Apparently Riot fails at logic about as much as they fail at balancing. And at having respectable and healthy work areas.

TheSnowyLeopard2 votes

No, they dont want to shake things up champion wose, thats what i meant.

Usually they shake things up gameplay wise (which they are with minion and turret changes) And there is still 2more patches to "shake things up" otherwise.

Sorry, i should have clarified on the champion thing

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