Can we find a solution for Urgot lacking Sterak in team fights ?

ValiantKiller··6 votes·2,640 views

I think Urgot problem lay in the fact that he can't get access to item 3053 it provide the extra shield and tenacity needed in team fights special against heavy/soft cc combos. Darius Garen Illaoi Yorick etc having all much better time in team fights cause item 3053 keep saving them from burst while in same time it a good against slow and debuffs effect.

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MrFawknSunshine1 votes

urgot is ranged. steraks is melee only .

why not get hex? mercs? there are alot of items he can use in replacement of steraks

ValiantKiller3 votes

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urgot is ranged. steraks is melee only .

why not get hex? mercs? there are alot of items he can use in replacement of steraks

Downvoted cause it clearly you just want to make it up for strong item with stuff that we always buy anyway.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

ooo u downvoted me, man im gonna go cry and think about killing myself now

Doctor Jarvis4 votes

Urgot was designed to be a ranged juggernaut, and as such his tools were balanced around the fact that he had Sterak's available to him. A while later they changed the item to be melee only and he received no compensation.

Side note, don't bring up items that OTHER JUGGERNAUTS CAN BUILD TOO.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

yet the community/player base cried out how ranged adcs are abusing steraks

cant have both

there are other items LOTS OF THEM that urgot can use and be just fine

why not bring up other items he can build an use and be fine? steraks wasnt the only item in the game that would make urgot a good pick or a bad pick .

ValiantKiller1 votes

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yet the community/player base cried out how ranged adcs are abusing steraks

cant have both

there are other items LOTS OF THEM that urgot can use and be just fine

why not bring up other items he can build an use and be fine? steraks wasnt the only item in the game that would make urgot a good pick or a bad pick .

You legit tilting me, if it wasn't good item that give you free ad, free shield and free tenacity why all champions include assassins rush it?? It legit the only good item to survive in this meta special that he got no damn sustain like garen, mundo, illaoi, yorick, nasus, darius, etc

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

who rushes steraks ? its never a 1st item built.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Urgot was designed to be a ranged juggernaut, and as such his tools were balanced around the fact that he had Sterak's available to him. A while later they changed the item to be melee only and he received no compensation.

Side note, don't bring up items that OTHER JUGGERNAUTS CAN BUILD TOO.

didnt they buff his shield for compensation?

im not saying, that this solved his problems, but i think they at least tried to offset the steraks change.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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didnt they buff his shield for compensation?

im not saying, that this solved his problems, but i think they at least tried to offset the steraks change.

Nope they didn't buff anything i looked through the change history and he got nothing as compensation .

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Urgot you can check the patch history on this page

https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-721-notes#patch-champions That was the only buff he got back then and it wasn't as compensation more of general buff.

Fertsa1 votes

a sterak's like passive could easily be placed on his W without changing much, it would obviously be weaker, as he wouldn't need to pay for it, but it isn't exactly too far off thematically

ValiantKiller1 votes

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a sterak's like passive could easily be placed on his W without changing much, it would obviously be weaker, as he wouldn't need to pay for it, but it isn't exactly too far off thematically

Problem his W slow him, like god.

La Bello1 votes

give Urgot Tenacity during W maybe?

ValiantKiller2 votes

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give Urgot Tenacity during W maybe?

It a good idea, special that his w slow him already so with tenacity should fix that problem.

Done251 votes

The new fighter items will benifit him greatly when they are eventually released.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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The new fighter items will benifit him greatly when they are eventually released.

That if they got released. And I don't think they will fix the problems of him getting bursted and slowed in team fights. Legit Anivia R ruin his life while other champions able to walk out due to sertak passive.

Done251 votes

He's a warden/Juggernaut combo. He's supposed to be kited to hell and back. The problem is that his kit lacks the impact needed to justify this lack of mobility. Especially after they removed the speed boost from his W.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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He's a warden/Juggernaut combo. He's supposed to be kited to hell and back. The problem is that his kit lacks the impact needed to justify this lack of mobility. Especially after they removed the speed boost from his W.

I know he should be kitted and such, but the rest of class able to handle kitting more easily since they don't get slowed on their W and they able to get tenacity from item 3053 that allow them to survive sudden burst damage as well.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

I don't know why he can't just be considered melee.

That'd also make buying Frozen Mallet actually do something, and he'd get the full speed boost from Black Cleaver.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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I don't know why he can't just be considered melee.

That'd also make buying Frozen Mallet actually do something, and he'd get the full speed boost from Black Cleaver.

Cause they afraid how his passive and wave clear going to work with item 3074 item 3748 etc

Man urgot fall badly in team fights and fall badly in duel later in game against champions with item 3053 .

Like let's be honest here urgot always tend to win 1v1 fights early and 2v1 while survive team fights.

But once team fight kick in after mid game, due to his nature of been a juggernaut he need to be in the middle of fight special if h want to use his R fear. Sadly nothing of that is possible and even sometimes you die before your R even finish it animation leaving you to die and not able to kill anyone while champions like Garen Darius able to survive his burst later game and survive team fights while easy to use their point to click R over him.

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