Is increaseing the base range of all ADC's the answer?

Woook3r·Jan 22, 2016·1 votes·492 views

This is what I notice from the games where I was in a realistic position to carry 3-4 idiots. Remember this is in games where I am truly foced to carry 4 people who fed multiple kills in lane.

I was jinx and I got pretty fed (3 kills) to moderatly fed (farm + kill + assist) in lane. I was Lucian and I got fed enough that my ult did really good dmg to fronline tanks (2 kills and good farm). I was miss fortune (one death no kills). If I was ever able to hardcarry on another adc, it was because I either played a perfect game or got more than 5 kills in lane which should never happen.

This is what all of those champions have in common: Can deal a lot of dmg at more than 550 range.

Of all of these champions, jinx is considered the most balanced. Is increasing the range on adc's the right way to put them in the right spot?

10 Comments

ModWulf HelhammerJan 22, 20162 votes

Um..3 kills is not fed

Troy242621Jan 22, 20162 votes

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Um..3 kills is not fed

Depending on the game time, it most certainly is. 3 in lane is a resounding victory in lane. Good players aren't going to shell out kills in lane like lollipops. I would like to know their CS, however, because that should be a second advantage.

ModWulf HelhammerJan 22, 20161 votes

If you get 3 kills within, say, the first 3 minuets, you are on the road to being fed. This does not automatically equal being fed. I have died to my lane opponent 3 times before, but quickly made up that gap as I played better then them, got kills elsewhere, or they just couldn't keep the lead going.

In brief, while 3 kills aids you to getting to that point, having 3 kills does not equal being fed

Woook3rJan 22, 20162 votes

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Um..3 kills is not fed

Yea. U should continue to build dmg after feeding your lane 3 kills. They rnt that fed.

ModWulf HelhammerJan 22, 20161 votes

I can't even understand what you just said. Could you repeat it, but with proper words this time?

Woook3rJan 22, 20161 votes

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I can't even understand what you just said. Could you repeat it, but with proper words this time?

No you are illiterate. Its not my problem.

ModWulf HelhammerJan 22, 20161 votes

Your sentence made no sense, so forgive me if I am unable to understand gibberish.

Also, that's not what illiterate means.

Troy242621Jan 22, 20161 votes

No.

Woook3rJan 22, 20161 votes

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No.

So my argument was that only the adcs that can do good dmg at huge ranges are capable of truly carrying when fed from lane. Otherwise, any fed renekton can make that sole fed enemy team member irrelevant without much effort.

Guyy FieriJan 23, 20161 votes

We need some counterplay. playing ADC in team fights is all about positioning. How do you find the safest place to put out as much dps as possible. If every ADC has insane attack ranges, then team fights will just be about which ADC can kill the tanks quicker; at which point all you need to do is pick Vayne and win the game. However, having that AA ranges are smaller allows for the counterplay because ADCs have to be riskier in order to lay down their DPS or risk getting instagibbed before even landing one attack.

Now, because of Jinx's huge range, yes it is quite easy to snowball a game with her. Say you are against Vayne or somebody similar with a short AA range, Vayne can no longer duel you, you will know out DPS in team fights thanks to your rockets, you just flat out do more damage. However, it is just as easy to risk losing that lead because of her lack of mobility (granted that Her passive requires killing something to activate.). If Jinx gets jumped on and CCd, there is little chance of escape.

Lucian is a different case. Lucian, because of his early game strength, will begin to fall off slightly late game so if you get a two kill lead in lane but remain even with your enemy (most of the time) you will eventually be out scaled. Lucian is a champion that you either have to win in 25-30 minutes or you have continue to play aggressive and press gold leads.

Can't offer much advice of MF but truth be told, if there were any ADC who could feed in lane phase and still be relevant in team fights, it is her so long as her team sets up the right wombo for her combo.