Riot, locket and redemption needed NERFS, not BUFFS...

Rexxiee·Jun 14, 2017·3 votes·269 views

Like seriously, how do you manage to buff both items (and break grail) on the same fucking patch?

Is this a joke? Why is your balance team so blatantly biased towards supports? Like seriously, those items need to see a power reduction, not a nerf that comes with a "compensation buff" that is so big that its actually a BUFF, get the hint balance team seriously.

Or just give broken items to every class, supports shouldnt have 4~5 broken items to choose from (or just buy every one rofl), give me a 3k gold IE that also has lifesteal, attack speed and PD passive, doesnt sound like a good idea right? Then just nerf the items.

12 Comments

RaoulJun 14, 20173 votes

Because, belive it or not, Supports are supposed to have impact on the game and are not just there as a "you lose" position you get from being autofilled.

Darkdemon653Jun 14, 20172 votes

{quoted} Why is your balance team so blatantly biased towards supports?

I tried to come up with something funny to say, but nothing I could think of could truly capture the ridiculousness of what you just typed.

SalronJun 15, 20172 votes

Bruh Redemption is only slightly better at near full build while also being weaker at all other stages of them game It's also shit if you don't build other healing increasing items

meowwow7Jun 14, 20171 votes

because they want people to actually want to play said role instead of complain and dodge/troll if they get autofilled into it

SukishooJun 14, 20171 votes

They are nerfs...

meowwow7Jun 14, 20172 votes

it nerfed their bases but buffed synergies

Sir YamazukiJun 14, 20172 votes

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it nerfed their bases but buffed synergies

Redemption is worse for most of the game and is hardly much better when you buy all the healing increase items... That can hardly be called a buff. I didn't look into the current locket numbers, so can't comment on that right now. The point of the changes wasn't to nerf the items outright, just require investment to get the most out of it so you don't have tanks, even non-supports, buying Redemption and getting the full heal or mage/utility squishy supports buying locket and getting the full shield.

meowwow7Jun 15, 20171 votes

so the 20% healing increase on item 3222 isn't going to do anything? with the synergy buff to the items it might encourage supports to start building it again consider when item 3107 is used that 20% is a 60% for that heal

Sir YamazukiJun 15, 20172 votes

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so the 20% healing increase on isn't going to do anything? with the synergy buff to the items it might encourage supports to start building it again consider when is used that 20% is a 60% for that heal

It's not a "synergy buff". Redemption was flat out nerfed as a base and require you to build those items to get at least the same heal as the old base. That's a nerf and an added requirement to build those items. Do you think a Braum or a Leona is going to want to build an Ardent Censor or any of those items? For it to be an actual buff the base had to be untouched with the multiplier for bonuses being added.

Here's someone else showing it for reference: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/rqd6EWY0-psa-redemption-was-not-buffed-so-much

meowwow7Jun 15, 20171 votes

so basically what you're saying is they nerfed it to the abusers but nerfed the early part of it for the users and semi buffed it late game

Sir YamazukiJun 15, 20171 votes

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so basically what you're saying is they nerfed it to the abusers but nerfed the early part of it for the users and semi buffed it late game

Yes, that's basically what they did in simple terms.

chipndip1Jun 14, 20171 votes

They nerfed their synergy with themselves, but buffed synergies with items from opposite sides of the spectrum. The issue isn't one or the other, but rather stacking them together. As it is now, few supports would want to build in a way that makes both these items strong, and doing so would take all match to finish.