Why is everyone b*tching about mages?

GlockHammer··6 votes·583 views

Mages are still great. I still see a good variety of mages in games. I still see mages carrying games all the time, both in my own games and in high elo streams, fuck I even see mages going support and wrecking.

If anyone should be complaining it's non-assassin Poppy Malphite item 3089 , non-shen tanks, non-massive defensive steroid tanks that enable them to play like the always have.Rammus , it's the fighters without defensive steroids.

I remember back in the day when beefy champs loved to eat cc, cause it ment your carries wasn't getting cc'd.

In new meta even frontlines are dodging CC like it's the goddamn matrix cause getting caught is a death sentence.

When was the last meta where mages were one-comboing tanks as they are doing now?

#=%I#)/%" But muh expensive items! Yeah, never though it should be pricey for Leblanc Lux to be oneshotting tanks?

And Irony is, thanks to fucking thunderderp. You'll be onecomboing them as soon as you've completed your second item.

Bah.

13 Comments

GenghisEmo2 votes

Its the items.

AP are expensive, and not as cool.

While some got nerfs.

Now AD items are cheaper, strong af. So even a well off mage is only able to get 2 items, even with same cs or slightly more than an AD champ who can already be done with a third or in most cases almost dobe with a third.

Deus Imperator2 votes

Because a single item, called Maw says "Fuck you" to every mage in the game

Meanwhile mages have to build a shitty zhonya to stand A CHANCE at being alive

And the only competent mage you see nowdays are annoying lux and fizz

Big Lincoln1 votes

who says you need zhonya

I've survived plenty of games never building it on Veigar Viktor

axel vazquez1 votes

I consider Lux cheese, mostly due to her one spell being NEARLY UNDODGEABLE, but with that said, most mages are cheese. Gladly most of them are getting a rework to change up their gameplay a bit (similar to the ADC rework.)

GlockHammer1 votes

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I consider Lux cheese, mostly due to her one spell being NEARLY UNDODGEABLE, but with that said, most mages are cheese. Gladly most of them are getting a rework to change up their gameplay a bit (similar to the ADC rework.)

It IS undodgable, you literally have to have 400+ ms to even stand a chance given she doesn't fuck up, and even then it's incredibly hard to dodge without some kind of mobility. I think Leblanc is just as cheesy as Lux, I rarely even see them use their chains to secure kills anymore, Q,W,R dead.

AttackOnTeemos1 votes

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It IS undodgable, you literally have to have 400+ ms to even stand a chance given she doesn't fuck up, and even then it's incredibly hard to dodge without some kind of mobility. I think Leblanc is just as cheesy as Lux, I rarely even see them use their chains to secure kills anymore, Q,W,R dead.

Don't forget if you ever get hit by a Morgana Q then you get reported for AFK.

GlockHammer1 votes

All that being said, I'm done with tanks, I don't like any of the meta tanks (assassins) and all the other tanks are just pure fucking garbage that will dmelt as soon as the double/trippe/quad adc comp look their way.

lilpokfluf1 votes

It's not really the mages I think people are upset about. It's when mages have little variety in terms of items. Basically you build the same stuff every game and none of it has any cool passive abilities the way Ad items have. Not to mention the cost to get the items were increased while a lot of items got nerfs

Zero Skill Tank1 votes

Yeah well it is kind of natural for a carry champion to carry a game every now and than.

If you look at who are currently strong mages in soloQ, you will see that most of them are "glorified supports" - champions with high-utility and low item dependency, most of them with actual significant history as support picks: Lux Zilean Zyra Velkoz Morgana Kayle GalioAnnie.

This is because mage itemization is crap ATM, and actual carry mages can't stand competition, with very few exceptions like Malzahar and Ahri.

BadmoonBC1 votes

If a lux or Leblanc is melting/one shorting a poppy then either they are insanely fed and poppy/malphite didn't build any resist Or Because the tank went full damage.

GlockHammer1 votes

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If a lux or Leblanc is melting/one shorting a poppy then either they are insanely fed and poppy/malphite didn't build any resist Or Because the tank went full damage.

Doesn't Poppy have defensive steroids?

TaoistMaster1 votes

OP has a point.

People complain about mages too much on these boards.

HOWEVER, there are some truths to those complaints and I think a lot of good changes will come with the mage update later this year

Nekusen1 votes

1- because of the lack of build diversity; as a mage you are pretty much stuck with a single build and have little room for innovation or path choices.

2- it's not 3/4 mages i see every game, i've played games with 4 adcs,

3- even while AD has more itemization options, AD items are better, AD items with MR are better and more efficient than THE AP item with armor.

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