"Can I go top?"

GlockHammer··137 votes·6,638 views

"I just chose support for quick queue"

Me: what if our top can't support?

"Doesn't matter, I can carry"

Checked his op.gg

39% winrate...

You would think people would realise by now we're in an age where you can't fool people by bluffing.

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

101 Comments

Ralanr59 votes

Just don't give them top. They got support, they deal with it.

ZGM Dazzling12 votes

Then they pick Fiora and go top anyway.

Deus Imperator4 votes

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Then they pick Fiora and go top anyway.

I must be like the only person who cant do anything with fiora

i always end up feeding the enemy top laner

Jari22 votes

Then you can report them for it if they start trolling.

Spookÿ21 votes

Reporting for trolling does 0 benefit for you fyi.

Jari22 votes

It doesn't benefit you personally, but it can eventually stop them and punish them, trying to show them that they should not be doing that.

OH MAN NOT GOOD9 votes

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Jari16 votes

Yes, you still lose LP.

You can stop others from losing it though, and make it so that he's actually punished for taking your LP like that.

OH MAN NOT GOOD6 votes

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HighH124 votes

and that's why we are stuck in silver my friend. All me,me,me no team

Jari8 votes

{quoted}

idgaf about the other people losing it

i want MY hard-earned lp

If you think only about yourself, you won't climb either way. League is a team game, and worrying about just YOUR LP isn't working as a team.

Help your fellow summoner (CoughIgnoringRetconCough) and report the person. You won't get your LP back, but you'll stop them in the future from taking more and more from people.

Or if you are so much for your own LP, did you know if they are banned they have a 0% chance to show up on your team again? Woah, they can't take another 20 LP. Congrats you just saved YOUR LP.

Pink Chocolade 2 votes

By reporting them you can prevent to meet them again, so this is an secure invest with low risk low reward

OH MAN NOT GOOD2 votes

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Jari2 votes

I've seen plenty of people around silver complain about finishing a game with someone toxic, reporting and blocking them, and then getting them next game and demanding Riot allow block to stop that.

LordForrest1 votes

Not true happens to me occasionally, usually in the next couple of games or so, but there are times i will play a game a day or so later and recognize a name from earlier.

Monkey D Luffy1 votes

You're missing the bloody point... What he is mentioning is an issue that is still unaddressed, yes you can report someone but that only fixes future problems and ignores the present, that troll has still ruined the game, and that's the issue, yes he can report and hope for the best in the future but that's still a game down the drain. Sure, one game might not be everything but it doesn't mean that it isn't a problem.

P.S. Your whole "teamwork" thing is extremely irrelevant and just seems like you're trying desperately to strengthen your argument.

Jari2 votes

So do you want Riot to give you your 20 LP back?

If they did it for one person, people will flood them with requests to do it for them, saying so and so costed them the LP and therefor should get it back.

And I'm using the teamwork thing because this game relies on you working as a team to be successful. It doesn't matter how good you are. if you don't work as a team, you can still get stomped. I fed a Zed 15 kills like a moron and still won because my team actually worked together to shut him down.

You are not everything on your team. Work with your team and fellow players to solve the problem. Doing nothing about it doesn't solve it. If a child steals cookies from the cookie jar in front of you and you don't do anything about it, it tells the child it's okay to do that. We have to play the parent here, not the bystander.

Akesgeroth5 votes

You are literally complaining that there isn't a magical way to stop them from picking the champ they want and going wherever they want.

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

EboybiterKDA1 votes

"it can eventually stop them" rofl. what stats are you pulling this out of

look at my season 5 stats http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=eboybiterkda

every game i troll and throw games. I have over 100 of ranked games that I ruined. I never got banned. please tell me where you heard of this myth that riot actually bans people for champ select trolling or in game throwing. cause I never encountered a warning through my 100 of games of deliberate throwing. I mean one look at my stats just screams "troll". 100 KDA on some champs? yet terrible win rates? please stop spreading such false lies about the ban system and what it punishes unless you yourself have tested it out on smurfs. I have, and I've seen to what extent this system fails. My stats are proof of that.

owned.

Jari1 votes

Bronze 5 is possibly the worst example area for it. Anything is possible. You can go 0/50 with team comparing and still win because the enemy team can't cooperate. And vise-versa on that too.

Also, like I said, people have to actively report you. Clearly they aren't doing that. If you feel like it's alright though, go tell some Riot employees in their ticket system. :P

EboybiterKDA1 votes

i dont have just my team mates reporting me. I have all 9 players teaming up against me in game saying "lets get this guy killed and report him for not playing the game". literally my team mates shout my location ("he is at wolves", "he is going to gank top"). 9 reports is so common. and I've had over 100 of ranked games i trolled. thats what? over 100 reports even if it was ONLY ONE PERSON that reported me. Given that at least 23 team mates are raging over the game I throwed on purpose and opponents feeling bad for my team mates on how hard I trolled, I'd say I average a good 34 reports per game. thats a solid 300 plus reports. again, you are supposed to be banned off of two or three good reports. I have 100 ranked games trolled. at least 100 reports (im being very very very generous with that number) and no ban.

do you not do math or were you simply just typing without thinking?

owned.

Jari1 votes

So people who are reporting you also break the code?

That's why. Those players broke the code and Riot can't do anything because of it. They'd either have to ban both of you, even if one person didn't get enough reports, or ban neither of you, even if one of you hit the point. Otherwise they'd get marked as favoritism, as that guy got banned but this one is okay?

A lot of games do this, not just League. That's why I was saying Bronze 5 is the worst example. Most people stuck down there are toxic and the toxicity ruins coordination.

EboybiterKDA1 votes

you are failing so hard. riot has stated fighting toxic players with toxic chat is not permissible. Riot will ban toxic players even if it was directed towards the original toxic player.

you are telling me if everyone breaks the rules, riot wont ban anyone? do you even think before typing? do you seriously think riot will be like "hmm lets let this deliberate game thrower who has accumulated 100's of reports off the hook because he turn every game into a toxic pool".

nice logic.

Jari1 votes

Actually, it is like that.

Multiple companies do that, and in fact I even asked if the employee in my ticket could answer that and it's an issue because it's the favoritism play.

EboybiterKDA1 votes

its not favoritism when they ban people that troll and flame. the only favoritism in this example would be towards me, where i am getting off the hook after 100's of games that I throwed.

ty for telling me riot is supporting my behavior. really goes to show your lack of logic.

Jari1 votes

The point is that it's harder to take action, because then it needs a reaction to the one reporting. To do that, they'd have to look into his reports too, which ends up in a chain. Before you know it, half of the community is suspended.

Also, there's the chance that you were either not even reported, or that those that are reporting you spam the crap out of it to a point where there's no weight (Again. Bronze 5. I'd believe there's no weight.)

EboybiterKDA1 votes

I was placed into silver (the rank that you are in) before I could plummet myself into bronze.

so if your saying reports from players of your rank don't count, thats also another indicator that the report system sucks.

and this "chain reaction" that you are spewing can be applied to any division. if someone uses dodge scripts in gold and everyone reports, does riot need to look into all the reporters reports? why is this chain reaction only a thing of bronze. do you even logic?

its incredible your only one division above me when I am PURPOSELY throwing games to save my KDA while you don't throw and can only reach silver.

I'd say you are the real troll here if you seriously cant achieve past one division higher than a game thrower.

GlockHammer2 votes

{quoted}

It doesn't benefit you personally, but it can eventually stop them and punish them, trying to show them that they should not be doing that.

Ok. My only problem with this is that when reporting I will have to divert additional attention to a person I'd just much rather ignore, sometimes it just feels better to instaleave postgame lobby than reporting. :/

But I can see why it would be better if we all take the time to push that report button.

J Epstein7 votes

oh cool. I lossed 20 LP, but atleast they got a pat on the wrist!

JESUSSAYSNO1 votes

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oh cool. I lossed 20 LP, but atleast the got a pat on the wrist!

if you didnt dodge that for a small -3 lp, you are literally stupid.

InivtesPreeze5 votes

Yes, we should be punished for the actions of others and if you don't take the punishment (time loss and -lp from a dodge) you are "literally stupid."

You're literally an idiot.

My Waifu Vanilla7 votes

or you could take the 20+ minute time loss of playing the game and losing more LP anyway?

Myozthirirn3 votes

how is -3lp a punishement it doesnt affect mmr in any way, therefore you get 3 extra lp on your next win or 3 less lp loss in your next defet .__.

A Basic Island2 votes

ah yes, the type of player we all wish we could euthanize

Akesgeroth1 votes

Then you report them and they can take a vacation from LoL.

Akunaitsu3 votes

Or smurf and wreck the new player's experience

High52 votes

I immediately minimize the selection window, ignore everyone and mute them if we make it to the game.

Can't get worked up about stupid, but I don't have to listen to it either

I don't expect Riot to clean it up either. Like WoW 10 years ago, you either put up with it or find another game. As long as I can mute people and watch tv on my other screen, I'll put up with 20's. Good games are still a lot of fun in LoL.

Llanite1 votes

Then your bot loses horribly and you end up with 2 useless people while the enemy has 2 fed.

Ralanr3 votes

If they keep losing because they pick a role they have no interest in playing, then it's their fault.

It's one game.

Llanite2 votes

So you'd rather be right than having a win. I don't have anything to response to such logic.

Ralanr3 votes

One loss out of many others doesn't seem that bad.

Myozthirirn4 votes

if you are better than the averange person on your elo, you will climb anyways A win means nothing, what carries you is a positive win% So yea, ill rather be right than wining. Ill win most of them, he will lose most of them. Ill never see him again but ill see myself in ALL the games.

OneSmoothDude2 votes

It's not about being right, it's about doing right.

Taking the easy path and giving in to a bully's demands might help you in the short term. But it shows you have weak character, and for the bully it reinforces the idea that they can do what they want and people will bow to them.

Screencap your champ select, host it on Imgur, and include a link in the report you file. 30 seconds of "effort" on your part can make a big difference.

Stand up for what is right. Garen

The Deckowner25 votes

support: can I mid?

Me: not with that alistar u locked in.

Support: U can trade me X champion I always carry

Me: not with ur 5 game losing streak with X champ

Support: GG GONNA TROLL

Spoofghoul3 votes

alistar mid if totally viable m8

hes got some nasty burst if u built him ap and he can tank and has utility

so if your team needs a support a tank and an assassin try ap alistar mid you will thank me later ^^

The Deckowner3 votes

except any ranged champ can poke alistar out of lane lv1 by simply autoattacking

KoggyStyle2 votes

midwick s3 says hello with null mantle pot start or cloth charm pot

Spoofghoul2 votes

except you just need the xp mostly once you hit level 3 you win

combo + tld + aa + passive takes easy 40% of their hp every time and whilst they stunned you walk away so you take 40% of their hp and lose none, meanwhile you keep healing their poke.

So after 3 combos, because they probably got a potion, they got to leave lane.

You are also fairly impossible to be towerdived and after lvl 6 they have no hope of killing you.

first 2 lvls are shit just grab whatever gold u can safely and just make sure to get the xp. after that it gets easy af

The Deckowner2 votes

1.Alistar has relatively high mana costs, u arent gonna just keep spaming abilities. 2. when u are on ur way to retreat u will take a big chunk of ur hp before u walk out to safety because ur stun doesnt last forever. 3. any semidecent player knows how to zone u away. 4. no safe waveclear 5.poor cs 6.i can go on

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