These ADC changes are not enough.

Onotori··1 votes·1,432 views

Right now, ADCs burst better than assassins, and drain tank better than WW or Vlad. They're supposed to have high sustained damage, but low burst, and be squishy, right? Even with all your "nerfs," nothing is going to change. ADCs will be ever so slightly weaker early game, and still end up being assassin drain tank gods past 15 minutes.

Lifesteal needs to be nerfed (lifesteal items should have VERY low stats, and Death's Dance should be weak on ranged champs), total AD needs to go down across the board (oh but the Only AD meta is fun!), and ADCs need to lose their bullshit items to cover their every weakness (or we can just add an AP item that gives you a shield for half your health when you get low, make an AP Mercurial, an AP PD and all that).

10 Comments

ReshiKillim7 votes

No more 50% crit damage amp on IE is a rather large difference if you ask me.

Onotori1 votes

Yeah, so the highest winrate ADC right now doesn't even build crit.

Now, how much change do you think that's really going to do? Hmm...

AirKingNeo1 votes

yeah therefore IE shouldn't be changed because caitlyn nor xayah nor trist are issues.

Pokemonred2002 votes

it is a huge difference. It can make all the difference between an 400 damage crit becoming a 500 damage crit (which is notable in the difference between an ADC with item 3508 instead of item 3031). The difference only gets larger as the game goes on as well. The new IE is effectively going to be conqueror giving %armor and magic pen at the same time that you can see what's being penetrated with, so... they really won't be as huge for burst anymore.

Mizaya2 votes

Lifesteal is dependent on DPS. Marksmen are losing DPS due to dealing less amplified damage on crits, so they're also indirectly losing healing from lifesteal. Assassins now have much more reason to build Mortal Reminder as well (if it will go through with the change to total armor pen as I'm assuming) which further reduces the lifesteal capability of the ADC.

DestructoDave2 votes

Burst better than Assassins, huh?

Heres some clips from a Fizz game I had yesterday:

https://youtu.be/seG2YOqSt_o

Number 2, more team members

https://youtu.be/vjIYw9NPGKw

And the REAL kicker, number 3. When I missed R. I even missed E. I killed him with just Q and W.

https://youtu.be/gIyUCai2LVw

Athenes Lulu2 votes

nah dude lets delete adcs from the gaem instead :^)

Speeedy1 votes

lifesteal doesnt need to be nerfed as you think, I think item 3153 item 3812 item 3072 item 3139 are all fine. What needs to be done is Fleet footwork and item 1055 need to be nerfed more. This way during the game you have to make a choice of do I go survive or more damage? Right now people are buying life steal last simply because you don't need it. If I was nerfing FF I would just lower the %heal on minions/jungle creeps even more. Dorans Blade Id make it like a flat +5 per hit. Yes that would make it stronger early game but it would fall off soon as you did more than 160 dmg per hit.

AirKingNeo1 votes

nerf D blade? Crazy talk

Rysophage1 votes

All this lifesteal crying is cool and all but with 3 crit items, boots, GA, and lord dominik's where is the lifesteal? Fleet footwork is getting nerfed and the lifesteal items are probably going to be used more since every adc wont have to go triple crit every game.

You sound like a salty top laner maybe you should try playing adc before you cry about it.

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