Question about spellbinder and skillshots

SwiftKitten88·Feb 24, 2018·6 votes·1,528 views

As a main.. my spear damage is based on the distance traveled.

but with the new i can increase my AP instantly.

so my question.. if i activate after i have already thrown the spear but BEFORE it lands. would it do more? because clearly the damage isn't calculated until it hits. but is the AP value used to modify the final output based on when i throw the spear? or when it lands.

i would test this out in practice tool, but it requires allies to get stacks..

16 Comments

InTheoryFeb 24, 20187 votes

For everyone who just quotes that it requires allies to get stacks without contributing anything to the question: I jumped into practice tool as I recommended and you do get stacks from a) allies (as tooltip states) b) enemy champions c) from your own spell casts without internal cooldown

I also tested the question asked whether you can activate Spellbinder mid air to increase the effect of flying skillshots.

k wìxFeb 24, 20183 votes

Can confirm, it does.

Damage is calculated at the time of the application, rather than the casting of spells.

Im a Zilean main, so my Q damage can be changed by a lot of things.

InTheoryFeb 24, 20182 votes

Just jump intro practice tool and try out! [slayer-jinx-wink]

DisulfiramFeb 24, 20183 votes

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i would test this out in practice tool, but it requires allies to get stacks..

InTheoryFeb 24, 20184 votes

Also works on enemy champion casts

PoskeFeb 25, 20182 votes

You can stack it yourself rofl

Jesus Is My KingFeb 24, 20181 votes

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Just jump intro practice tool and try out! [slayer-jinx-wink]

"i would test this out in practice tool, but it requires allies to get stacks.."

GôdÌyFeb 25, 20181 votes

It doesn't tho. Your own spells count.

flibitydooFeb 24, 20181 votes

I think it does.

one of the interactions I know for a fact confirmed in game is if you play Ezreal and you fire your q and then Nami gives you the E buff, while your mystic shot is in flight, then it will cause that mystic shot to slow once it lands.

it's a very surprising interaction. But since that skillshot seems to update midflight, I'd assume it'd work the same for nid and her spellbinder.

Mysticman89Feb 24, 20181 votes

I'm reasonably sure damage is calculated based on stats at the time damage occurs (i.e. on hit), so any buff to your AP that occurs mid flight (spellbinder/nunu boil/maybe you're fighting from fountain and can buy mid flight/etc) should increase the resulting damage.

I know for example that janna shield (which gives AD) buffs mid-flight autos, so I doubt AP buffs would work different with abilities.

PopcornBunniFeb 24, 20181 votes

On a related note, does this apply for Bard's shrines as well? Leveling them causing already existing shrines to heal for more.

Or Heimer turrets, Tibbers's stats, et al.

k wìxFeb 24, 20182 votes

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On a related note, does this apply for Bard's shrines as well? Leveling them causing already existing shrines to heal for more.

Or Heimer turrets, Tibbers's stats, et al.

Yes, it absolutely does. If you can raise his AP value before someone triggers a shrine, it will infact heal for more.

SwiftKitten88Feb 24, 20181 votes

well thanks for all the info people tyis will REALLY help.

as now i know i can use it for things like Ziggs ulti if i see its ganna land Syndra R Nidalee spears obviously

even champs like Nunu can be stupid with this item

RainbowIceeFeb 25, 20181 votes

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well thanks for all the info people tyis will REALLY help.

as now i know i can use it for things like ulti if i see its ganna land R spears obviously

even champs like can be stupid with this item

i mean you'd want to use it early for syndra while you spawn and harass the enemy with your spells. IT last 4 seconds that's enough time to Q > E > R with syndra or even better Q > E > Activate > W > Q > R

DorkunedAurasFeb 25, 20181 votes

I remember seeing a video where Jinx ulted in fountain with no items, bought a full AD build, and her rocket one-shot the person on the receiving end, showing that the new AD updated

SwiftKitten88Feb 25, 20181 votes

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I remember seeing a video where Jinx ulted in fountain with no items, bought a full AD build, and her rocket one-shot the person on the receiving end, showing that the new AD updated

well that's pretty definite proof XD.