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Ori: +5% damage reduction on Q after hitting one target syndra: -30 base damage on ult AT RANK 3 taliyah: +20 mana cost on Q
really makes you think out of all of this, taliyah nerf seems to be the only one impactful, and even then i don't even think it will change that much
i guess it's fine, at least fizz is getting -1 sec cd on Q at lvl 18
Penns6 votesalready cant wait to shit on those matchups with that 0.25 sec lower q cooldown spike at level 14 hehe
Ahristocats1 votesfizz is good in soloq, he's being buffed for pro
Rexxiee4 votes[{quoted}](name=i am Rubick Sama,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ebRhATG9,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-07-26T22:23:45.963+0000)
fizz is good in soloq, he's being buffed for pro
What is good for you?
Fizz cant lane against either of those 3 unless the ori/syndra/taliya player is trash, and they all outscale him and are 10 times more useful in a team fight and arent completely useless if they fall behind.
Like you want to play someone mid to burst a squishy down why not just play syndra? She 1 shots ppl from 750 range, actually scales well (while having a good lane and mid game too) and isnt completely useless after she ults as she still has aoe dps with Qs and has an up to 1400 range aoe stun.
This wont change on how fizz does nothing against this tank spam and op support items too.
Ahristocats1 voteshe has a 50% win rate 5% pick rate http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/fizz/diamond
tell me how bad fizz is in solo queue, when darius has the same stats
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesFizz has a win rate 50.35% for Platinum+ players whilst the very best Fizz's are earning a win rate of 57.16% with the average rank of these top players being in Diamond IV.
LoLalytics ranks Fizz at 63 amongst all champions earning a tier grade of Gold.
This ranking takes into account the win rate of Platinum+ players, the pick/ban influence of Fizz, the win rate and average rank of the best Fizz players. this is just so far for this patch (7.15)
ZeroAgainst1 votesdo it for shaco in op gg in challager he was 33% win rate lmao
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesyes shaco is bad vs good players
Rexxiee2 votes[{quoted}](name=i am Rubick Sama,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ebRhATG9,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-26T22:27:18.923+0000)
he has a 50% win rate 5% pick rate http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/fizz/diamond
tell me how bad fizz is in solo queue, when darius has the same stats
Darius is a much better champion than fizz is atm.
And stop tunneling on stats alone.
Ahristocats3 votesyeah, because you said so
okay son
Glîtchy5 votesWhat is good for you?
Fizz cant lane against either of those 3 unless the ori/syndra/taliya player is trash, and they all outscale him and are 10 times more useful in a team fight and arent completely useless if they fall behind.
Like you want to play someone mid to burst a squishy down why not just play syndra? She 1 shots ppl from 750 range, actually scales well (while having a good lane and mid game too) and isnt completely useless after she ults as she still has aoe dps with Qs and has an up to 1400 range aoe stun.
This wont change on how fizz does nothing against this tank spam and op support items too.
So....Fizz having counters is....bad?
Catastrop2 votesOh no, heaven forbid a champion have actual counters/lack strengths compared to a few others.
Penns2 voteswhat does that do even for pro play tho? xd
Salron1 votesHe's seen some proplay this season already tho
Doodlzzz5 votesThe Ori nerf isnt that small; although she is still super reliable
SweedishGunner4 votesThe Taliyah changes seem to be aimed at the fact pro's don't spec into mana early or at all in some cases with her.
DoktorKaiser3 votesSmart idea to hit Orianna waveclear early and her lane Q harass, its a bit too high which helps her not lose CS at all and shit on weaker mages/melees. Good change that doesn't destroy a balanced champion, also Fizz buffed, Vi buffed, Xerath buffed, Ekko buffed, they all shit on her so she will be fine now. Except pro play ofc, she always rules there unless there is something super broken.
Syndra nerfs, she is already terrible in SoloQ, they are Ryze-ing her. Galio as well (downvote me more after his rework when I said that its terrible and he will either be super broken or a trash champion, thanks for ruining my old main RITO).
Taliyah nerfs, I think they are too hard but the champion is really boring to play against since she literally just walks around with her Q minigun and zones you, I mean Ori does' similar thing but with a lower range much less effective due to ball travel time. We shall see but I say that this will get reverted or lowered to 10 more mana at lvl 5.
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesSyndra terrible in soloQ... X FUCKING D. If you are garbage at the champ, yes. Not if you have good mechanics. Then syndra is a free won laning phase against the majority of the midlane roster.
DoktorKaiser3 votesDoesn't she have one of the worst winrates in the entire game with not that high of a pickrate. Sounds shit to me. Of course in super high elo and pro play she is more than good, but 99% of players aren't in that elo. She will be the same as Azir or Ryze I guess.
LadyRenly2 votestaliyahs a garbage champion though, unless youre korean
Glîtchy1 votesReads title and sees "Taliyah" and "Nerf" in same sentence
https://media.tenor.com/images/3519163d102c7e5a5fb113b7ffb596e5/tenor.gif
ZapMyHeart1 votesHarsh nerf for Taliyah. Good luck roaming, girl, cuz you ain't gonna have enough mana ;_;
Catastrop1 votesI'm honestly glad they didn't touch Syndra(not like they'd ever nerf the actual problem with her anyway), because there was a good chance she'd just disappear from SoloQ altogether.
Sire Hippington1 votesto be fair, that syndra nerf is more like 60 less damage in a realistic scenario.
Not that that will be a huge difference at that point, but i prefer keeping things straight.
But yea, like all the nerfs to poplar pro picks lately, it's basically just love taps.
Kariu Rena1 votesAre you trying to say -30 dmg on syndra ult when most of the time its overkill wouldnt gut her xddddddd
