Juggernauts will never be healthy for the game

Succubús GF··3 votes·1,079 views

Nobody likes when volibear is meta because he builds literally full tank items, and one shots regardless Nobody likes being one shot by people who scale off their hp (Can't imagine people like max hp damage in general)

Honestly that shit is so frustrating. Love getting outplayed by them. Like yes assassins do too much damage but they're glass cannons, the same amount of damage input shouldn't be coming from "Tanks that are meant to fight (??????)"

Like take riven or fiora for example, bruisers, sure they do a lot of damage and are slightly tanky, but they buy offensive items to do damage (No fiora is walking around with item 3065 item 3068 one shotting people with q) But then you see mundo who is full fucking tank (with the exception of those crazy p.d builds) that are doing shit tons of damage.

Like the whole point of being a tank is to soak up damage and front lining. Yes they should do damage but i mean really? We just letting them one shot left and right without a care? Ok

YIKES the instant downvotes

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Colton1476 votes

DrMundo builds what he pleases.

item 1413 item 3065 item 3047 item 3748 item 3046 item 3083

Slythrin Umbreon1 votes

item 3020 item 3916 item 3151 item 3152 item 3068 item 3001

D357R0Y3R2 votes

nobody likes it when anyone is meta

Succubús GF2 votes

I mean mages being meta i was fine with. ADC meta was kinda gross but only because of ardent. Overall it was fine Assassin meta with no defensive stats is trash but im okay with a meta where assassins are good.

I just want balance. The trade off of damage for survivability and vice versa.

saltran3 votes

I actually like that Ahri is meta for soloQ, compared to the rest midlaners she's less cancer.

And even now she's still totally ignored on pro play.

Succubús GF1 votes

I actually really agree, i know people hate ahri but honestly she's like all skillshots and is a lot healthier than "hit r miss everything still kill"

saltran1 votes

At first I hated Ahri because looking at her winrate and pickrate I was shocked, then I saw her banrate and it was a reminder that I too agree with the popular feel there: she is not banned, even if she's strong because ppl dont despise playing against her.

But I want to remark that she is strong, is just that I rather have her strong than champs like Ekko or Kata beign strong for example.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

what you like is irrelevant when it comes to what everyone likes and people like different thing no matter what is meta you will have people complaining

I would fucking despise an Ahri meta, thanks god for some reasons she's almost never played in master tier

saltran1 votes

Yeah, but we can see the Ahri banrate: 7,5% on plat + and 6.5% on diamond . And on Gold/Silver/Bronze she has 7.3-4-5% banrate.

That's a really low banrate for a champ with such a high winrate, that means that ppl dont despise ppl playing against her, because then she would have higher banrate. Similar for MF for adcs, she's bonkers and has a stupid high winrate, and yet she has 6.5% banrate only.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

so you think people like to play against jhin?

monkaS

ban rate means nothing, jhin is still complained on the boards and i still hate him myself, he has a low ban rate but it doesn't matter

saltran1 votes

jhin is still complained on the boards

That's actually the most non relevant thing you can say.

Okay you hate Jhin, the Circlejerk Boards aswell wants him nerfed (they still half defend him because he's the pinnacle of adc design and etc etc).

That's fair, I too dislike Jhin but for the majority of the community he's not that big deal as the stats show.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

i don't care about the majority I'm not talking about the majority

I'm talking about THE ENTIRE league community because you know I care about everyone which is why I understand why Yorick is being nerfede for low elo, which is also why I'm asking for a Lucian mini-rework instead of a Lucian buff because of low elo.

DuskDaUmbreon2 votes

Eh. At least juggernauts can be kited when they're not meta.

Divers are the least healthy class by far, imo. They do assassins jobs just as well (while even faster at it) while being tanker and having more DPS after they explode their target, with the only tradeoff being that they don't have a dash back out. Divers are always going to be the better version of assassins (high burst with decent durability and dps), juggernauts (high durability/sustain with decent burst, mobility, and dps), or ADCs (high DPS with decent burst, durability, and mobility), or they're going to be useless when they don't do another class's job better than that class.

A 10/0 Zed I can still outplay by dodging his burst with a well-timed flash or a Zhonya's/GA. A 10/0 Nasus I can still outplay by staying away from him and having someone peel him off of me. A 10/0 Xin Zhao is killing me before I can blink, while being unkitable and unable to be bursted before he bursts me, and then he'll move on to killing my tank and support.

Moody P2 votes

nobody likes =/= is unhealthy

voli doesn't one shot

Alzon2 votes

Most juggernauts are incredibly easy to outplay... either hit them with a slow and walk away, or dash away. Almost every champion in the game has some form of movement-impairing CC or mobility, with the one exception being another juggernaut himself Mordekaiser. If a juggernaut is standing between you and an objective, hit him from range. The instant you get within range of a juggernaut, you’re usually toast. Stay outside of that range and take zero damage.

Alex h87211 votes

I think its more that DrMundo is just disgustingly overtuned right now.

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