The reason tanks are only viable in competitive

D357R0Y3R··7 votes·1,277 views

is because there, tank players have a brain and don't go 1v5 expecting to be able to survive the DPS of 5 members for more than 2 seconds.

Instead they acknowledge that their role is to make the perfect engage for their team, and that they can tank a lot of damage if their team is here to threaten the enemy lines. completely the opposite of soloqueue where tank mains think they should go 1v5 yolo and survive for 30 seconds like in season 2.

That's why you hear the boards wanting riot to change tanks into being able to go 1v5 and being immortal while keeping their CC threat that every single tank has.

Funny

25 Comments

chipndip18 votes

Boards: Damage is too high

A standard solo queue match: Gangplank Nocturne Katarina Jhin Brand

saltran1 votes

What a trash comp imo, I would hate to have that on my team on a ranked

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

eh, they've got a good mix of snowball and late game threat. Personally I wouldn't want the Katarina, but aside from that, if they get ahead, they can get a good stranglehold on the game while still having good late game backup in Jhin and Gangplank

saltran1 votes

Jhin isn't specially a lategame backup tho, he's still worse than the vast majority of adcs lategame.

chipndip11 votes

I mean, if you're not thinking about your cc threat or front line, yeah, this is a slightly not mental team comp.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

well that's why they have to get ahead. If they don't, then they're screwed.

Ðezi2 votes

hi

saltran2 votes

Kinda agree, what I learned from playing duoQ with a premade even if we are low elo is how fucking easy is to dive and play with tanks once you have a bit of synergy and teamplay.

Specially on the turret dives, I cant count the times that the enemy adc stays alone under turret and we dive him easy because it's literally free to dive with a Thresh/Alistar/Braum and yet they keep doing it.

Moody P1 votes

weird that tanks didn't have this problem until after they started having 4 CCs minimum in their kit

makes me think haha

Frosted Tips3 votes

What tanks have 4 CCs? I know Nautilus does, but he is pretty old now.

D357R0Y3R2 votes

i think he took in account slows

Moody P1 votes

every tank that came out or got reworked after galio rework

also poppy

Frosted Tips2 votes

Could I get a list please. I would rather not look them up and since you are the one complaining about it you should know them already so you can back up your claim.

Moody P1 votes

no, you couldn't.

boricCentaur15 votes

Ornn has 4 and nunu has 3 and thats it so no he cant back up he's claim

Frosted Tips1 votes

Thank you

boricCentaur15 votes

Yeah so many like Ornn and ummm Nunu but he has 3 yea there has only been one tank release and 0 reworked tanks that have 4 ccs since galio and also galio only has 3 ccs so why are you lying and acting like this is a big problem with its not.

Moody P1 votes

and sejuani, and maokai, and poppy

lying OMEGALUL

boricCentaur11 votes

O yeah the tank update was right after galio my bad I thought galio was after it so I was wrong on that but you still are lying like sejuani has basically 3 ccs since her ult will either stun or slow you will never get hit my 4 ccs from her, mao has 4 but like he's slow is weak and to say poppy has a lot of cc is disingenuous her slow is very weak, her w only works of you dash, she e only stuns when you hit a wall but its still a displacement but not strong one and her ult is a skill shot. like fuckig leo can apply cc better then all of these champions and nunu just proves you wrong since he has 3 and galio also has 3 so yeah you did lie. also your just fuckng wrong ali is better then all these tanks, sion idk if he is a tank or a juggernaut but if he is a tank he is better then all of them, cho is better then all of them its almost like its how the cc is applied and what else a tank can do that matters not just having a lot of cc so how about you stop being disingenuous and give a better agreement or just say your wrong.

Moody P1 votes

lying

Sej Q knocks up, W slows, E stuns, R stuns (and also has the slow field, so technically 5 CCs. lol) Maokai QWER all either slow or root Zac Q slows and displaces, E displaces, R displaces Ornn Q slows, Brittle auto is a displacement, E displacement, R slow+displacement

This is, so far, every new tank design to come out post-Galio. All of these champions have had massive success in pro play with middling or mediocre performance anywhere else; getting hard-shafted after to put them out of pro play has only raised the disparity.

like fuckig leo

Leona wishes she was as successful as any of these champions have been in the last year. Sejuani remained a top pick despite being trashed repeatedly, Maokai had to be hard-nerfed to stay out of the spotlight, Zac had to have his clear speed and damage utterly DESTROYED to balance out the absurd amount of CC potential he now has.

Leona is also exclusively single target specifically to balance out the fact that her CC chain is quite broken after she has CDR. These champions are all equipped with sizable AOEs.

Nunu's not a tank; if I remember correctly he performs much better building partial AP than full tank.

galio also has 3

Note how I said "after Galio," which means "not including Galio."

cho sion

Irrelevant to the conversation. Stop trying to shift goal posts; you don't even know what you're trying to argue. rofl. Tanks are terribly designed in League and their absurd disparity between competitive and soloQ is absolute proof of it; Riot has simply failed the playerbase on these reworks and designs.

boricCentaur12 votes

ARE YOU TROLLING SION AND CHO ARE PART OF THE FUCKING CONVERSATION SINCE THERE TANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and were talking about tanks in competitive I mean sion was been the same in both but cho has only been good in competitive and you talked about mao who when he was played in competitive was also strong in soloQ just like sion so it works since your point is tanks having too much cc makes a disparity in competitive and soloQ so me talking about tanks that don't have a lot of cc like cho but are only good in competitive works same with sion since mao was never just nerfed for competitive just like sion!!!!!. sej, zac and ornn have all been nerfed for competitive but you being up ornn but ornn was never played when and after release even with he's cc he was only pick after they give him better damage on he's w, sej is also not picked for having a lot of cc its her lock down like I don't think you understand why things are picked like shen is also a tank that has been nerfed for only competitive and that should show you that its not the cc its how the tank is played like zac has a lot of cc but its aoe for the most part meaning he is great in team fights like you even proved your self wrong your point was that its having many ccs is why tanks are broken but then you talked about how these champions have a lot of aoe and that's why leo is not as good as the others and saying that goes against your point since that means the reason is its the aoe and not just have a lot of ccs like tanks do more then cc its not about how much cc a tank has its about how its applied and if there is anything else the tank can do like look at tahm not a lot of cc on him but he has a lot of utility other then cc and he has been nerfed for only competitive and mao in terms of soloQ and competitive is around the same as it was before the rework or look at Gragas who is also better in competitive then soloQ and was not reworked he has also been good there for a long time. The thing is tanks have always had this problem no matter how much cc they have. Galio is a tank when he was released and he still does play like one so why are you talking about a tank that has been nerfed for only competitive and has a lot of cc when you can just say the tank update and onward but my bad still. also I would put Nunu as a tank since that's the class he was put in by riot and he build mostly tank and does play like one

abca981 votes

{quoted}

What tanks have 4 CCs? I know Nautilus does, but he is pretty old now.

Poppy Ornn

If you count Aatrox Q recasts (he has 3) and his W.

Frosted Tips2 votes

Ok Ornn yeah but Poppy slow is pretty weak and her W only works on people with specifically dashes not blinks. Aatrox isn't a tank.

Ragnaveil1 votes

Nor does his kit support it other than his bloodwell.

Phieldworker1 votes

{quoted}

Poppy Ornn

If you count Aatrox Q recasts (he has 3) and his W.

Aatrox is more of a juggernaut and not a tank.

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