Sejuani has a 58% winrate and I'm not at all surprised

Kingsgrave·Mar 15, 2015·4 votes·829 views

Always thought she needed to be nerfed even before the Cinderhulk enchantment. Her damage is ridiculously high for a pure tank and her R is so fucking easy to use and autowin fights with.

14 Comments

vC48YNoGbJMar 15, 20156 votes

I wonder if threads like this are reportable as spam, having zero actual discussion in the opening post,

KingsgraveMar 15, 20152 votes

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I wonder if threads like this are reportable as spam, having zero actual discussion in the opening post,

I wonder if mage players can ever stop using the forum to be prissy.

Evil JesterMar 15, 20151 votes

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Evil JesterMar 15, 20152 votes

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I wonder if mage players can ever stop using the forum to be pissy.

coming from the OP who is using the forum for the exact same thing....

Major SparklesMar 15, 20154 votes

Seriously. lol

Pucking PurrfectMar 15, 20152 votes

Please Rito nerf Sejuani.

If they nerf her,

Please Rito nerf Nautilus.

If they nerf the titan,

Please Rito nerf Amumu.

Goes on...

Whiners gonna whine.

cHAncEman1292Mar 15, 20152 votes

Sej does hit like a bus but so does Maokai and Amumu and Vi and Reksai and Vi. It just seems like in order for tank junglers to compete they'll need to adopt a more bruiser-sqe damage output while being tanky.

AxriosMar 15, 20151 votes

dun say anything about amumu so he no get nerfed plz

Chef NastyMar 15, 20152 votes

She is weak pre 6 and has substandard dueling capabilities.

IcyPepperMar 15, 20151 votes

Her damage is ridiculously high for a pure tank

She's a fighter tank. Her kit is a mix of utility and damage, like fighters.

KingsgraveMar 15, 20151 votes

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She's a fighter tank. Her kit is a mix of utility and damage, like fighters.

She builds almost full tank and is punished for not doing so, so I wouldn't classify that as a fighter.

IcyPepperMar 15, 20151 votes

She has one damage skill that scales off health, the rest go off AP.

And she is punished if the enemy abuses her build. You see, her core build is typically items like item 3143 and item 3068 that give a mix of armor and health. It's decent, and pretty nice, but item 3153 and Vayne are a terror for her. If you can force a Sej to build full-armor items like thornmail, that reduces her damage.

Her W, the ability that goes off health, is DoT AoE. If you have range, and you can avoid getting frosted (allowing her to use her slow affect), she can't touch you. Champions like Kalista Zed Leblanc can pull this off easily.

I'm not saying she's not deserving of a nerf, and she's always had a strong teamfight presense, but there is counterplay and it would be foolish to ignore it. Her Q doesn't even have that much range, so as long as you're warding (and if you're not, then why are you complaining about junglers?) it should give her a hard time ganking (even if she throws her ult, you should still see it coming with wards).