Can someone explain to me Irelia's weakness?

DropFill·Mar 24, 2015·5 votes·957 views

I can't think about a single one. Good against ranged champions because most of them are bad at 1v1 on melee range, and since she can engage over and over, she is good against like all ranged at top lane? And good against every single melee I can think because she can stun easily without needing to reset her jump. She also has 2 forms of sustain, true damage, tenacity, gap closer, CC and scales with lvls and AS, which means she only needs triforce to do stupid amounts of damage

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Pucking PurrfectMar 24, 20153 votes

Darius DrMundo Maokai Renekton Malphite Sion

DropFillMar 24, 20151 votes

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Darius is complete bad in this meta. Mundo is not in a good spot because morello is a core item. Maokai seems fine. Renekton is just too weak after some lvls, if he doesn't snowball on her, he is useless. I don't know about malphite. Sion goes oom before putting her low enough

IcyPepperMar 24, 20152 votes

I think building item 3110 item 3075 item 3068 are helpful items when dealing with her. Maybe throw in a item 3102

DropFillMar 24, 20151 votes

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I think building are helpful items when dealing with her. Maybe throw in a

Bought sunfire as voli. She still was being able to shit on me with triforce only

IcyPepperMar 24, 20151 votes

So? That's one case. Sunfire alone isn't going to be enough (it gives health against her true damage, and armor against her physical, and the passive is nice because she does need melee range for her E and W). I'd have to see your entire build in that game.

I just think the items in tandem work well against Irelia. Thornmail and sunfire punish her when she's in melee range, frozen heart will slow her attacks down, and banshee's will either block the damage of her Q or E depending on which she uses first. If she uses her E, there goes the stun and now you can punish her. If it blocks her Q, she can't escape for awhile.

PæanMar 24, 20152 votes

A normal irelia build consists of item 3153 item 3078 into tank items so she will get a good amount of attack speed to help her on-hit W and Bork passive on-hit so anything that lowers attack speed is great. Nasus's wither helps, item 3143 and item 3110 passives are good too.
Someone with with high sustain and a decent amount of health can heal through Irelia's burst and sustain through the true damage.

Irelia's early game isnt very strong if you work around her cooldowns, especially on her W active. Try to bully her and snowball early if your champion allows it.
Hope some of this helps.

Sire HippingtonMar 24, 20152 votes

as-slows are strong as well as save laners that can do good tp-action and teamfights. Darius owns her in lane thx to lanebullying and the as-slow on W, Malph can hold the lane and is much scarryer in midgame teamfights and tp-ganks, and his AS-slow really hurts her in fights.

also, she snowballs hard in both directions, many toplaners are a close matchup, if you get an early kill she's out, and she has no real escape so hard junglepressure is pretty effecktive. Once she's behind, just force teamfight as she's incredible weak in teamfights without 3+items

SleepyLionCubMar 24, 20151 votes

She is like Yi, Chogath, or Thresh.

They always wreck, 100% of the time and are extremely hard to do well against.

But if you complain about them everyone will act like ur an idiot and say its SOOOOOOO EASY to counter them, then offer either no help in countering them. or tell you something really broad that doesnt help at all like "cc them" "outplay them" "just dodge the hook"

IcyPepperMar 24, 20151 votes

Yi's has a few weaknesses. True, saying "just cc him" is very broad and frustrating to hear, but it can be better constructed as "his ult makes his immune to slows, but not stuns. If you stun him and use that time to run away, his ult will run out." His heal can be interrupted by knockups, or if you're an aa dueling champion like Irelia Vayne you can autoattack him during it and he can't stop you. His alpha strike is annoying if he's good and uses it to dodge cc, but if he uses it for damage you can retaliate with cc or a powerful spell. Outside of his spells, Yi is auto reliant and while he can deal true damage, there's always item 3075 to piss him off.

Does that help?

One thing people aren't told straight is that all-in supports like Thresh or Leona (as in they stun/hook you and then you die) is that they need to be poked down. The key is to either hide behind minions or bait that hook out. If they miss, or you're safely behind minions but are in aa range, you need to poke them down. Leona is a tank, and plenty of Thresh's will build so, so poking them down takes awhile. But the cooldown of their main moneymaker will give you time to do that. If a Thresh misses his hook and it's pre-6, you also have a chance to try and nab the adc since he doesn't have an ult. Leona is more difficult, because of her Q, so it's a better idea to just poke her down and wait for her to leave lane.

People can't be super in-depth during game, but there's a few tips to help people out. They're super annoying, but once you get some practice in they become manageable.

Cosmic WarperMar 24, 20151 votes

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She is like Yi, Chogath, or Thresh.

They always wreck, 100% of the time and are extremely hard to do well against.

But if you complain about them everyone will act like ur an idiot and say its SOOOOOOO EASY to counter them, then offer either no help in countering them. or tell you something really broad that doesnt help at all like "cc them" "outplay them" "just dodge the hook"

CC doesn't even work here because of her passive lol

Lukasblade2Mar 24, 20151 votes

item 3075 item 3110 item 3143 + Garen and other tanky champs. Go read up on her new guy. First of all, the forums aren't where to look. Your answers lie in the wiki's and in the actual client. If you read up on Irelia(and actually try to play her for once), you'll come to better understand an enemy champion. Good luck guy!

DropFillMar 24, 20152 votes

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+ and other tanky champs. Go read up on her new guy. First of all, the forums aren't where to look. Your answers lie in the wiki's and in the actual client. If you read up on Irelia(and actually try to play her for once), you'll come to better understand an enemy champion. Good luck guy!

Played irelia. I totally wrecked enemy's team hecarim.

Lukasblade2Mar 24, 20151 votes

Another champ to add to the "Champs with the chance of defeating Irelia"

BlackRavenMar 24, 20151 votes

early game try to outtrade when her w is on cd. late game dont even try. no one can beat tank irelia with bork late game. but you hope your adc can live long enough to kill their back line.

MartyrofsandMar 24, 20151 votes

Stop playing ranged top laners. Its really that simple as Irelia has bad match-ups against pretty much every melee bruiser/fighter/tank in the game either due to a weak early game on her part or simply being out scaled.

Irelia's biggest strengths are her ability to punish squishy ranged champs and a massive mid game power spike via Triforce. You can abuse either of these, by not picking a ranged champ, by burying her early delaying that power spike until its to late, either with jungle help or just bully her if you picked one of the champs thst can, or pick a champ with great late game scaling and play for that late game, Jax/Olaf/Mao/Nasus/Cho/etc.

2000boxesMar 24, 20151 votes

Pantheon he has a really strong early game his passive hard counters irelia because her abilities do almost no damage so she is auto attack reliant he build almost as tanky if not tankier than irelia and he has ranged poke and when the fight gets really close your e will give you consistent crits on irelia not to mention you also have a stun and you rush hydra so you get sustain too