Evelynn Ultimate

TheUltimateSpear··4 votes·1,131 views

I, and may other Eve players, have pointed out our dislike of her ultimate. It encourages her to build like an off-tank, and her kit wants to be an AP assassin... Or so, that's what's been said. Regardless, Riot doesn't want Eve's ult to have a minimum damage; they don't want her to be able to kill outside of her Q range. Alright, it's fine I guess.

Honestly, now that I think about it, since you open with Agony's Embrace most of the time anyways, the current health % isn't a big deal since AP Assassin Eve can oneshot a squishy now from full health if she executes her combo correctly.

Even those things considered, I still think it could use a buff. Consider it. Agony's Embrace has a 150/120/90 second cooldown, and it slows for only 2 seconds at 30/50/70%... But, it also gives Evelynn a 150/225/300 absorption shield for each enemy she hits, which is indeed pretty damn strong, especially with a bruiser-ish Eve build. IMHO, Eve's late game teamfighting as a bruiser is decently strong, despite not likely being able to isolate and ambush a single target, due to the sheer amount of power a good ult can give, particularly with a bruiser build.

So, my suggestion is to buff Evelynn's ultimate- specifically when she's building as an AP Assassin, which, while it can definitely succeed, still tends to become really vulnerable as the game goes on.** Buff back the scaling to 1% for every 50 AP, rather than the current 1% per 100 AP. Keep the damage as a % of current health.** Or, maybe change Ravage back to magic damage. Hell, it's understandable to not do both, but I think one of these two suggestions deserves consideration.

But, to elaborate, let's take this scenario: AD evelynn ultimate vs AP evelynn ultimate damage against a squishy. Let's say the ADC, who, for the sake of estimation, has 2,000 health.

An AD Evelynn build has no scaling on her ultimate, so it's 25% current health at max rank. She opens up on the full health ADC with her ult, dealing 500 magic damage.

An AP Assassin Eve's build has ~ 600 AP in the estimate. This means her ult deals 31% current health as magic damage. She opens up on the ADC with her ult, and deals 620 magic damage. For building 600 AP, her ultimate only does 120 more damage to a squishy. Regardless, AP Assassin Eve successfully bursts down the ADC, but AD Bruiser Eve only took a few more seconds to kill the ADC herself, while being much more durable and providing her team with an initiatior, solid DPS dispenser, and utility in the form of a slow from a Randuin's and or a BoRK.

Now, of course that was just some crazy theory-crafting going on, but you get the idea. Consider it, Rito. Pls.

12 Comments

ZephyrDrake5 votes

she needs an entire new ultimate, the fact that Riot has stated that it is kept weak because they don't want her to kill stuff outside of the range you get vision from it's a sign that her current ultimate needs to be scrapped. It doesn't fit her style at all and does nothing but be an initiation tool that is more suited to a tank/bruiser than someone who screams assassin through every fiber of her being

TheSlogs1 votes

AP Evelynn got a buff. It's called Luden's Echo

TheSlogs2 votes

Movespeed AP Evelynn is the most fun you will ever have in a game. You can go to the back line and shred the carries and get out before most of the cc hits you. You have the move speed from Luden's and if things go wrong Luden's will still proc when you are running away due to both movement and Q. It's honestly a blast to play right now.

TheSlogs2 votes

Along with Lich Bane move speed, some swift boots with alacrity, and the move speed runes, you get moving pretty fast. But I am not a fan of the fact that champ hits still don't give bonus move speed from W passive. WE WANT IT BACK RITO PLEASE

404 Terror1 votes

Build a Phage item and/or Rylai's Crystal Scepter. You have to change the core-build you're used to playing with her in the past, but she still rocks face.

TheUltimateSpear2 votes

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AP Evelynn got a buff. It's called Luden's Echo

Luden's Echo was how AP Eve reemerged to begin with. Agreed though, that item has incredibly synergy with Evelynn.

I've never tried movespeed Eve, but when i can I'll give it a shot.

It seems most Eve players don't like the new W. But alas, what can we do. :P

TheSlogs2 votes

I completely forgot how they removed the reset on kill or assist on W. Honestly that change made tanky AD Eve stronger than AP or even AD assassin Eve. Nice job Rito, added less diversity and just took a giant dump on Eve's lore.

404 Terror1 votes

I don't know, man. It's incredible being able to hard engage, take out one of their carries and then W out to safety. And in team fights, engaging and then W'ing out and then waiting for stealth to be back up and re-entering combat after a kill/assist. It's just rinse and repeat. I hated the changes at first, but now I couldn't play her without it.

And how about that low cool down on her passive now?? I think she's just as strong and fun as she was, if not more-so.

404 Terror1 votes

Go AD (with Trinity Force) and build a Rylai's Crystal Scepter. Enjoy the best of both worlds. You're welcome.

TheUltimateSpear1 votes

I shall try.

But Rylai is the only AP item to get, correct?

404 Terror1 votes

I seldom build any other AP items on her, unless I'm messing around.

404 Terror1 votes

EDIT I've been building Gunblade on her lately, too. What's great about her is you can build about anything and still do well. Just find out what you're favorite play style is with her (hard-engage, poke and peel, stealth assassin, etc.) and build what fits that play style best :)

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