Have we gotten to the point where we can admit Gnar's too safe?

Ser Garland·10/9/2015, 8:26:16 PM·28 votes·1,769 views

I mean, LCS is using him, Solo Q is using him. I see him top everywhere I go... He's like the thresh of top lane, he's everywhere, and no one's actually acknowledging this. No one's doing anything about it.

His scaling is ridiculous, he's ranged, his Boomerang when maxed is up, every 1.5 seconds. Can we do something about his cool downs?

23 Comments

magic pole10/9/2015, 11:27:40 PM15 votes

not until we admit Ahri is too safe

Old Man Teeto10/9/2015, 10:20:56 PM10 votes

You can play around Gnar's team fight, and his engage timing is super obvious.

If they even touch Gnar, it would be laning phase, which is strong against tanks and kitable champions, but mediocre against duelists with engages.

Doubt they'll do anything big to Gnar.

Jefftiffy10/9/2015, 10:00:29 PM3 votes

The thing is with people who literally are 10x worse are in top lane. I would rather fight Gnar over Fiora, GP, and Riven. This is coming from someone who plays Gnar. You can just pick someone with good stick potential and play around Gnar's CDs and his mega gnar. Basically try to go in when he is in mini and not even close to mega gnar. If he has hop don't blow to much on him unless you know you can stick. But his sustain and wave clear are both pretty bad. His wave clear is only solved in mega form but he sacrifices its dueling power to do this.

Gorgannan10/10/2015, 1:56:59 AM3 votes

His teamfight is extremely predictable and easy to deny.

Shroom Junkie10/9/2015, 10:06:17 PM2 votes

I love Gnar a lot but... I gotta be honest you're right. He's a dominant laner and team fighter whether in mini-Gnar or mega-Gnar form. His kiting potential and sheer base damage is kind of stupid... I laugh so much when I play him and deal like 300 damage on the 3rd hit and hit for 200-ish damage every Q every couple of seconds.

VG Crows10/10/2015, 9:24:56 AM1 votes

It's not just Gnar dude. ANY ranged champion has an insane advantage over most tops who are melee. You can safely farm, ks, harass and even get out when necessary because most ranged toplaners have some abilities that help them move/peel: Jayce Lissandra Ryze Vladimir - which most melee toplaners lack in general which they make up for some sort of CC. And I really hate it that top is completely dominated by ranged champions .

Yaskamasandwich10/10/2015, 12:30:15 PM1 votes

Gnar suffers from what most of the op champions like Fiora, Gp, etc. which is a hyper late game champion with a conditional strong early game phase. If he is against certain match ups he wins, if he is against other certain match ups, he loses. If Gnar fights someone immobile he's just going to win all game if that immobile champ doesn't get a gank, or if Gnar gets cocky and makes a mistake. If Gnar faces someone like J4 or Irelia, then Gnar's best strategy is basically wait at the fountain for 20 min mark. It's the old Ryze effect, If Ryze fights melee he wins, else he loses. The counter system has become too much black/white more so than ever.

Du Ma Mi10/10/2015, 4:08:53 PM1 votes

Clearly, you've never seen me play Gnar #0/7Before20

The Bearded Bard10/10/2015, 4:12:54 PM1 votes

%max health damage is fun and balanced.

warpenguin55510/10/2015, 4:22:04 PM1 votes

im gonna say no, only because he's good vs darius. not yet.

Zane Zephyr10/9/2015, 9:56:18 PM1 votes

I think it would be nice if they put some kind of cooldown on his W passive. I think that might actually benefit gnar a bit since he can space out his attacks before he goes mega and get some more damage in.

kile14710/10/2015, 7:25:53 PM1 votes

Gnar is overplayed, but is in a good spot right now balance wise. His winrate only gets up to 52% with 125+ games played (which is a pretty low skill cap tbh), and his average win rate is 47%.

SpecterVonBaren10/10/2015, 4:27:05 AM1 votes

Eh, he's annoying but at least he's no Riven who smashes the q key and escapes a gank scott free.

Only Play Darius10/10/2015, 5:24:56 AM1 votes

Let's see

He's ranged

He has a slow

He has a speed boost

He has an instant jump

Aforementioned abilities are always up because he's resourceless.

Naa he isn't safe at all, he is easily zoned from CS and is a Darius-level gank magnet.

LemurMonster10/10/2015, 8:41:36 AM1 votes

There is a reason why many build him on tank rather than AD because his auto attack range is so bad that your almost always guaranteed to get hit when you go in. They gutted his early game after they gave him 3 nerfs in a row with is pretty harsh being one of the most squishy champs in the game in his normal form if not the most. All he has is his Boomerang to protect himself & the slow is not strong compare to other slows out there..

Otherwise his other spells dont do anything besides E as normal Gnar unless you hit someone & its a risk in itself having such low auto attack range.

Nemuze10/10/2015, 8:44:47 AM1 votes

Just play aatrox and dive him at level 3 :)