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Riot something need to be done with the Junglers and how they never fall behind!

Giggling Granny··16 votes·758 views

So i main jungle i do everything right and i even put the 130% of my gameplay to destroy the enemy jungler by countergank him stealing his buffs and outfarming him by 30 cs (CAMPS not lane minions)

My score is like 4-0-7 and his score is 0-7-1 i am lvl 8 he is lvl 5

Everything looking good so this guy goes to a lane and he dosent even get a kill het gets an assist guess what now he is 0-7-2 with 30 cs and now he is lvl 7

And i am like wtf? so all my work mean nothing because someone just took an assist that worth of 2 lvls? and this is not exaggeration this happpens in more times than i can recall..

So why? why riot allow bad players to catch up so fast? last time i check you should get rewarded for destroying someone...

Sure i get gold and stuff and items but what that mean? i put everything to make him useless and now he is the same lvl as me? just because he take an assist? no that no right because some junglers scale better with lvls but it mean nothing even if you punish them..

And dont go with the excuse "Oh riot did that in order to stop snowball and allow people to not get behind in game"

Hmm what? last time i check if you are 0-7-1 and you got destroyed on your main role you deserve to lose that how its supposed to be...if this game is completive that the point of competive gameplay to win the enemy..if riot just say "nah 1 assist 2 lvls and now you have the same lvl as the guy who pretty much steal your jungle counter gank you kill you he create kills for his team he took objectives but nah 1 assist boy is all what you need"

For me this need to be fixed in season 8

27 Comments

zarxus123411 votes

RIOT ruined the jungle this season so badly its unreal.

TheSingularity1 votes

This 100 times over.

BRING BACK SEASON 4 JUNGLE!

andrew95146 votes

Our only hope is that they rework the jungle....again.

Giggling Granny4 votes

7 seasons 7 rewrorks...

lets make a history with the 8th rework lol

I dont know rito need to find a way to fix the jungle tho and to stop allowing bad players to get rewarded so easily

DunkinNoobs5 votes

Catchup exp is broken. Kills and assists also give way too much exp. I can't count the number of times I've had 100 CS to the enemy junglers 40 and he's still the same level as me because he just ganked bot and got a couple assists. I can play Shyvana or Mundo and completely shut the enemy jungler out of the game by taking all his farm but it only takes 1 or 2 successful ganks to close the gap even when I have double or triple his CS.

koshkyra4 votes

I recently got a double kill in lane as a behind camille jungle

I went from level 5 to level 8 instantly

Giggling Granny3 votes

Totally balanced Kappaaaaaaaaaaa

Judge Steven2 votes

Rubberband XP is a terrible idea that rewards you for bad play. Hope it gets removed in Season 8.

SanKakU1 votes

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Giggling Granny6 votes

What? no...runes and all that mean nothing i use scalling runes too (i play rammus) so i use Scalling CDR and scaling HP....

The fact that i destroy the enemy jungler and riot allow them with one assist to come back in the game for the lvl terms its not right!

But then riot did that for people like you that you think nobody should have an advantage....

with logic like that then we shouldnt have defeats or victories ether we should just have "Nobody win thanks for playing you are all now challenger"

....sad days for this game and if this continue ever sadder days would come

SanKakU1 votes

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TequilaZombie3 votes

It's not like I would know that because I can't view your match history, so I don't know why people are down-voting me.

Because you assumed something that it's not true about a player's rune set up, as shown here:

you're relying on crutch early game rune pages

Because you assumed that the difference between static and scalling runes would be big enough at single digit levels, as shown here:

Scaling runes can make you end up feeding against players with early game rune pages but those same scaling runes can make you have a comeback later on

When OP clearly stated levels here:

am lvl 8 he is lvl 5

Because you assumed that the difference between rune stats would overcome a huge gold lead, which was implied here:

My score is like 4-0-7 and his score is 0-7-1 i am lvl 8 he is lvl 5

Because you assumed another player to be incompetent, as shown here:

to be honest it looks like maybe your problem isn't that you don't know how to stay ahead.

And also here:

you're relying on crutch early game rune pages to get ahead instead of pure skill.

And because of the use of "That's just how it goes" when what you described is absolutely NOT how it goes.

As a fun fact, you gave people 5 different reasons to downvote you in 5 lines of text. That's 100% efficiency!

SanKakU1 votes

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Giggling Granny1 votes

https://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=1995+2017RiP+Eva

...and i make a lot of customize on runes because i only have 3 runes pages

And this is a smurf account i even have a higher account than the EVA account but its not for you and with this account i am just gonna hit it to gold i am not gonna spend IP to tier 3 runes no point

ANd btw why you hate me again? i am pretty sure my points was legit i dont know why you try to argue with me or with people..for real..

TequilaZombie1 votes

Ohh he delete stuff. What did he said? I'm curious now!

Giggling Granny1 votes

i dont know when i check board it was already deleted who knows maybe he was just cusring and got deleted by a rioter..

B2OXX6 votes

LOL this is why people get mad at low elo when they try to talk about things.. Bruh high elo players challengers are saying same exact thing op said because its true if you knew anything you would know riot implemented rubber banding and changed jungle xp so now your only option is getting your laners ahead and being a second support because getting the enemy jungler behind means nothing.

But glad to see reddit analysts are also on the boards.

SnakDatSmilesBak3 votes

Riot should have an eye on rubber banding atm. I've heard some people smurfing don't care if they die because rubber banding is so good.

B2OXX1 votes

They dont care cuz its good for casual derps that play the game. And yep dying doesnt matter much as jungle ive seen people go 12-3 in jungle compared to 0-9 and the other jungler wins and does the same shit.

Sohleks1 votes

I agree the rubberbanding thats been added to the game the past few years is coming to be slightly pushing it.

And yeah it's the junglers in particular that have the most access to two rubberbanding mechanics in their jungle exp and being the roaming ganking role (more able to find favorable fights). I think minions give bonus exp to behind characters too but it's more rare and or minor [solo laners normally having to be the highest levels in the game compared to minions, and bot lane with way too much going on for levels to be at the forefront]. It's definitely most prominent in the jungle.

The comfort of the lead is merely that. Because they can take it back in half the effort. Playing from ahead is very much about not fking up.

Combined with soft towers and death timers soaring up at an arbitrary time its helped at diluting this game over the years.

It's actually hurting champ diversity in my opinion actively benefiting teamfight oriented champions with minimal tradeoffs too much. Champions have to be horrendously overpowered to break the norm of "safe overpowered"

It starts to feel like processed artificial food after a while. It's targeted more at cutting edge LCS teamplay for their e$ports or people new to the game but if you're in between... idk

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

Riot something need to be done with the Junglers and how they never fall behind!

Its the role falling the harder... but np.

Giggling Granny2 votes

when i jungle i am always 1 lvl higher than the laners..so how its the role that falling the harder?

If you fall harder than the laners then you need to look for a new main role.. because cleary the jungler is not for you!

Even if you only farm in the jungle and never gank you will be the same lvl as mid or half lvl behind if you do 1-2 ganks mid and top now you are 1 lvl higher than your mid and top...

jesus do me a favor if you falling behind as jungler dont play jungler spare the people who play with you in ranked games..

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

when i jungle i am always 1 lvl higher than the laners..so how its the role that falling the harder?

this is what we call snowball.

If you fall harder than the laners then you need to look for a new main role.. because cleary the jungler is not for you!

its bs, unless u snowball u won't be ahead of solo laner. For a good reason, when u lose, the other team get access to ur jngle, and deny u. And u don't have lane ressource, unless u caught some1.

jesus do me a favor if you falling behind as jungler dont play jungler spare the people who play with you in ranked games..

u don't even play ranked

Even if you only farm in the jungle and never gank you will be the same lvl as mid or half lvl behind if you do 1-2 ganks mid and top now you are 1 lvl higher than your mid and top...

no, if u afk farm u won't be even with mid

Giggling Granny1 votes

like i say dont play jg..

DoktorKaiser1 votes

I have been saying for years that counterjungling just doesn't mean shit any more. There is so much shit to farm at any given moment that making the enemy jungler actually useless is literally impossible unless he is reaaaally bad at the game. The most fun thing in Season 2 was counterjungling, that is where actual skill in the jungle was shown. Now everything is dumbed down, way too many camps, too much gold, too much sustain, too much exp, buff timers for dumb idiots who can't remember or add time, camps respawn 24/7. The only good thing with this type of jungle is that weaker picks aren't literally raped by broken stuff like Lee Sin, since in today's meta champs that are early game don't fall off either so if you pick Amumu into Lee instead of sacrificing early for late you get fucked both early and late. I really have no idea how to fix this honestly, I like playing unconventional shit in the jungle and I will rather get 24 tumors than play fucking Lee Sin.

Giggling Granny1 votes

ahhh the glorious moments of typing the timers of buffs on chats! (I gotta say i learn this shit from NB3 i was just a simple Plat pleb at season 2)

But yeah jungle has become like the other guy say a second support-carry role for the team with the weight on the support

Because even if you try to destroy the enemy jungler it dosent work any more...the how the xp work and the whole "underdog" xp that provides 2 lvl of xp if someone is behind is just bad design!

And i am sure riot would not go back to season 2 because they dont want their game to be hard they want it to be easy! I dont have problem with that but at least make it a bit completive at least reward the players that actually try to do something more than just normal stuff in games

So i guess we need to wait till S8

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