Can we please ship Udyr's 355 MS change even if his other PBE changes are delayed or scrapped?

Gosh Darn·8/3/2017, 5:42:51 PM·10 votes·637 views

Udyr is one of the worst champions in the game at the moment. He saw a lot of nerfs, his best items were removed, his keystones were nerfed, and he's out of the meta. All of this combined makes him one of the worst junglers in the game, and it's especially bad when you consider that Udyr was designed to only jungle, not lane.

He is currently the 6th lowest winrate jungler, the 5th lowest playrate jungler, and the 5th lowest overall palcement jungler. Giving him just 10 MS might make him slightly usable until his rework or changes go live. Remember that runic echoes and boots of swiftness were nerfed, which shaved tons and tons of MS off him since he was last strong. He probably still wouldn't reach a 50% winrate with his extreme weakness to kiting and mobility, but at least you could give him something with a very simple change that has no chance of overbuffing him. When it comes down to it, Udyr deserves 355 MS more than any other champion. Pantheon and Yi have gapclosers and Yi has an MS boost. In Yi's case it makes sense because he has no CC, but Udyr's CC doesn't even matter if you can't reach your target in the first place. Even extremely overextended enemies can be difficult to reach because nearly all champions have either mobility or cc.

7 Comments

Knoyle8/3/2017, 6:38:24 PM10 votes

Honestly Udyr needs to just be reworked because he suffers from such a huge case of binary gameplay. Even Xin seems to have more skill impression in his kit simply off how you can use his E and R. Udyr is THE run at you champion and It's annoying to play against. He's basically Trundles's ALWAYS drunk uncle who ALSO is less binary in his kit.

DunkinNoobs8/3/2017, 8:14:32 PM9 votes

Can we buff Udyr in a way that doesn't make the worst parts about him even more obnoxious?

Catastrop8/3/2017, 8:28:30 PM6 votes

Please god no, part of why this guy nerfed so hard was because of how sticky he was and you want to Riot to buff that aspect again? I'm sorry but I(and many others) enjoy not being run down with no chance of escape.

Arakadia8/3/2017, 8:55:27 PM5 votes

I don't think he should be buffed due to how binary and reliable he is.

Rexxiee8/3/2017, 6:05:37 PM3 votes

No.

Rockm Sockm8/3/2017, 6:23:50 PM2 votes

Good

355 base ms is the last thing I want him to get