ADCs are the root of support issues

Clint Orris··3 votes·885 views

Why does it seem like every problem in this game falls back to ADCs lol. But anyway, if supports weren't tied down being stuck with ADCs, maybe that would open more room for them to go else where. It seems as if anyone can be a support, but supports are only good at being supports.

Maybe we could have roaming supports, more jungling supports like Ivern or even dueling supports. Anyone feel the same way?

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A Doorknob1 votes

Support are capable of carrying hard. Ever see a support have like 25 assist in a 30 min game? Yeh, they carried, they just didn't brag about. Ever see an ADC carry a game? If he got fed guess who got him there; support did, which means support technically carried. Supports have a huge inluence on the ADC's ability to do anything throughout the game. Notice if the support does bad, the ADC does bad. IF support does good, usually the adc does good. <----This is not always true for both. The dumbest thing a support and adc can do is tilt each other. And sadly, it happens far too often.

Drehirth1 votes

? roaming at the right time is one of the most important things a support who wants to climb can do, not to mention you have more influence on your lane than your adc does.

What does this even have to do with adcs and why are they at fault again and for what "support issues" are you talking about specifically?

ohh I think you were trying to use the formula for farming boards upvotes rather than have any sort of constructive thread:

mention how adcs are at fault for everything + play the victim card as a support= massive upvotes.

Clint Orris1 votes

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? roaming at the right time is one of the most important things a support who wants to climb can do, not to mention you have more influence on your lane than your adc does.

What does this even have to do with adcs and why are they at fault again and for what "support issues" are you talking about specifically?

ohh I think you were trying to use the formula for farming boards upvotes rather than have any sort of constructive thread:

mention how adcs are at fault for everything + play the victim card as a support= massive upvotes.

Tell me from season 2 - 6 when support have done nothing but be the ADC's bitch for 25 minutes. Their success are extremely tied to the ADC's. Who wants to sit there and be with an ADC that has 20 farm at 10 minutes. Supporting is so undesirable that mages have gone bot, not to support, but to carry alongside the ADC.

Drehirth2 votes

You're only somebody's bitch if you see yourself that way, and choose to act that way.

There was a time when the support didn't do anything, but spend all their money on wards; that was awhile ago for sure, but outside of it they really have had much more control over what they do.

  • supports have a lane partner and generally have much more say in how the lane plays out early game than what adcs do.

  • supports generally bring the cc/utility to your team and can heavily affect how your team does in the midgame with roams

  • supports bring engage/disengage and can often instigate fights (and of course the good support will instigate the fights favorable to your team and therefore have an impact on the game) often enough by baiting.

if your adc has that little cs, then abandon them to help somebody more promising looking on your team. mute them if you don't want to hear their bitching- they are bad. Any good adc will expect their support to roam.

Often times I get annoyed when a support stands by me thinking I need to be baby sat 24/7 soaking up xp that could be solo xp while the enemy support is midlane making plays.

Find your win condition and overall strategy, sometimes change it accordingly. If you can be somewhere else without your adc automatically dieing or being zoned with the wave frozen then chances are it's better to be somewhere else (if your lane has been uneventful).

Other times you might be able to snowball your own lane and it'd be better to stay and being perma pushed botlane.

You make your own choices and impact the game how you see fit, don't blame your adc for all of your problems it's old as hell and is annoying how people fall into this victim mentality for no reason. Just ignore bad adcs

Big Lincoln1 votes

are you complaining about supports not really being allowed in other lanes, or the support playstyle as a whole?

for the former, a lot of older supports have tended to be extremely oppressive when they go into solo lanes, and they usually do that because their base stats allow them to do that, and the solo lane gold lets them scale much better. Look at when Lulu or Soraka top was popular -- there was no real interaction or gameplay, it was just them stifling melees with endless poke spam and then hitting them with targeted CC if they tried to engage.

the latter I just disagree with entirely. The only ADCs I really despise supporting for are Vayne, Ezreal, and Kalista. Vayne because she is the exact opposite of a good pick into Bard (my main) because I'm essentially shackled to her until she has some items. Ezreal players are just astronomically stupid; and Kalista is Kalista, and I don't like her ult. Aside from that, I generally have much more control over how lane goes than my ADC does. Me or the support landing CC determines when we engage, and we have to constantly adjust for how the ADCs are pushing lane, whether we're pushing it too hard (I push a lot as Bard due to stun mechanics), and whether or not I can roam mid or even try to go as far as top lane. It's also my responsibility to ward deep to make my ADC as safe from ganks as possible. I definitely never feel like I'm not in control, unless my ADC absolutely refuses to cooperate.

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