Can we get more slow reduction with the introduction of Sett?

Blue Shift·12/12/2019, 7:59:20 AM·41 votes·6,827 views

If you haven't seen yet, Sett's ult when he lands does a 99% slow for 1.5 seconds to everyone hit.

Slows have been progressively getting stronger and stronger over the years with no compensation, and with the recent release of Stormrazers update, the 75% slow for 0.5 seconds has made playing champions like Udyr and Volibear feel extremely annoying to play.

The only item in the game right now that gives slow reduction is item 3009 and it only gives 25% slow reduction, which is not even that good.

The 75% from Stormrazer is only reduced by 18.75%, making it a 56.25% slow, which is still an incredibly good slow. Allowing tanks and bruisers to get more slow reduction would make things like Glacial less cancer and tilting to play against while keeping it good for the other classes that shouldn't be building bruiser/tank items.

108 out of the 146 have slows in their kits, some more than once, and not including things like Stormrazer, Rylais, Dead Man's plate, Righteous Glory, Red Buff, etc... that all give even more slows.

Edit: This isn't a hate on Sett thread, Sett was just an example. If anything I would use Zilean and his 99% slow that lasts for 5 full seconds.

26 Comments

Trias00012/12/2019, 1:22:06 PM13 votes

Totally. Slows can be a pain in the ass more than stuns or roots: Nasus

13TaylorSwift12/12/2019, 2:28:00 PM7 votes

I honestly believe it's time they introduce a support/mage with spell shield like morgana's e or reduce the cooldown on cleanse. Cc = death and the counterplay to it is generally giving up on other items/sums.

RadeticDraws12/12/2019, 11:57:56 AM4 votes

He also travels a bit far when he does his ult and if his team isnt mobile enough that 99% slow is nothing i would be far more worried about how much hp the ulted target has instead of the slow

dont trust girls12/12/2019, 6:02:53 PM3 votes

Cc is becoming a growing problem altogether with a lack of ways to reduce it. Not even just reduction but CC is getting longer to the point where the reduction doesn't matter sometimes, dead is dead. one obvious example is morgana who lands her q and you're rooted for a minimum of 2 seconds and it goes up to 4 seconds but it's not just her, there's just champions that have been reworked or added in with obnoxious levels of crowd control put onto them.

DCYOUNG88812/12/2019, 4:34:31 PM2 votes

Isn't there a soft slow cap to movement speed should the slow be extremely high such as Sett's ultimate as well as Thresh Thresh's, and by extension other champions with very high slows such as Nasus? Say if the champion you are playing is wearing t2 boots and currently has 390 movement speed, when he/she gets hit by Thresh's ultimate (which is a 99 percent slow) their movement speed wouldn't be lowered to a speed of 34.5 but rather 110. Regardless though it is still a strong slow even with the soft cap.

Don't get me wrong, I would be interested in seeing more champions or reworks with slow resistances as well as Kalista Kalista no longer having an attack speed penalty when her movement speed is slowed as it is one of the few but very big weaknesses Kalista has.

PlsRitoRepairS1012/12/2019, 3:28:30 PM2 votes

Imho there should be additional stat, simillar to tenacity, let's call it "sturdiness". We have ranged and melee champions, but ranged one have variety of attack radiuses. So maybe let's give immobile melee champions some built in tenacity and sturdiness? For example up to 30% for immobile ones, 15-20% for immobile ranged/normally mobile melee champions(for example Wukong, or Xin), and 0% for turbo-mobile monkeys like Vayne, Riven, Yasuo, Yi, etc. Imho this is great option to nerf cc, by kinda keeping it the same.

peepsc12/12/2019, 7:27:47 PM1 votes

lol one time i got multi slowed (nasus, then when it ended i got slowed by zilean). i was a high hp tank, so i just kinda was moving a pixel at a time while dying slowly (in both ways).

Karn Bishop12/12/2019, 2:04:16 PM1 votes

Has it been so long since champions with slows instead of stuns has come out that people have forgotten what tenacity does? it does exactly what your asking for and there is plenty of it in game you just never build it.

XJ9999999999999912/12/2019, 4:08:26 PM1 votes

please, save your view until after the champ is released. its his ult, and it isnt gonna hit everyone, and youll prob be dead anyway.

if adc gets ulted just QSS or cruicable.

Skia Asteri12/12/2019, 4:44:09 PM1 votes

There are more options to counter slows than just item 3009 . Phase Rush, Unflinching, and if they are really an issue for your team than maybe the support should build item 3222 . Not to say item 3009 should not be looked at for a buff ( I think it should have ramping slow resist the longer you are consecutively slowed, giving it a solid niche as a counter to perma slows ).

Beacon Academy12/12/2019, 11:35:20 AM1 votes

Why are you that grouped up in the first place though?

You literally just have to not be lined up with him and his likely target :/