I really like Darius and it's a shame he can't be competiively viable

HateDaddy··17 votes·1,452 views

Not with his current kit at least. For starters, he's easy to starve out in 1v2s and doesn't offer much to a team when behind. But that's besides the point, because you can't exactly buff him with his current kit either. He's way too oppressive, especially against melees (and anything that isn't 600+ range on every thing).

Honestly, he's legit a bad ass. His walk animation is awesome, he's a dunk master, his name is badass. He's a giant dude wielding a giant axe with spikey shoulder things and a freaking cape. He has a cape. A fucking cape. That matters. He even makes sense from a champion standpoint, his E being the coolest thing about him. This dude carrying this giant axe is sick of your shit, he's going to pull you to him by the tip of his axe and Stone Cold Steve Austin the shit out of you. It's also a very unique ability as well, which makes him even more badass. Do I even need to mention his dunk? Hell no, that shit is for men. Real men. Real Americans. Darius is sick of your shit, he's here to dunk freedom onto everyone. MURICA.

But...that's kind of where it ends. His Q is okay, it also has a really unique feel to it. The outter edge doing damage not only makes sense, but it means he has something to aim for and as an opponent, you're looking to be up in his shit so only that limp stick hits you instead of that skin peeling axe end. Here's the problem, what's your reward for this as an opponent? Eating a huge AA steroid reset that also slows your attack speed, rendering any opportunity you have to fight back and out-trade him to about zero. This makes him extremely oppressive, and not in a good way. This is why he basically destroys every melee champion. The only real opportunity to beat Darius is to camp him, and that's basically Yorick 2.0, which everyone agrees his design is cancer.

Id really like to see a rework for darius, I know it's been planned and discussed but i feel like two essential things that need to go in order to make him much healthier (and potentially stronger) are his attack speed slow and his ult consuming his bleed stacks probably after he's applied 4-5 stacks. Because as it stands, you can't beat him in a short trade because of bleed stacks and Q/W. Any long trade/all-in is suicide. And even with all this, he still loses most games unless he absolutely snowvalls to a point where the game is over in 20 minutes, which isn't very satisfying for the darius player or his opponents. Being a pull bot and chain dunker late game as your only source of relevance feels underwhelming, especially for a champion with his kit and character. I don't pretend to know how to fix him but i feel like I've mentioned the essentials. And I would love to see his E be even cooler or be more rewarding for landing pulls (or dare I say, anytime he gets a kill or assist, the cooldown of it is reduced).

So Pls riot, make Stone Cold Steve Darius the real bad ass that he is with a less oppressive play style but in exchange a real late game so he can knock some heads, chew some spit and spit some tobacco and dunk kids.

30 Comments

HateDaddy7 votes

Remember, upvoting or downvoting without posting is a crime, punishable by dunkage.

Unless you're just upvoting me because you agree with me, then that's totally fine. You should alwaysbe upvoting me. 30k lifetime upvotes the dream

Gallowgrim2 votes

I'm upvoting because Darius warrants upvoting.

Shifune2 votes

So you are sad because a champion you like isn't played in the competitive scene? Welcome to the world of 99% of the other League players.

rtbf2211463931 votes

Get downvoted you disgusting male.

Hello I am Bird2 votes

Well... I mean at least he left a post >.>

Dunkrius2g1 votes

HAHA! RIVEN main can't handle the Swag of Dunkrius?

rtbf2211463931 votes

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HAHA! RIVEN main can't handle the Swag of Dunkrius?

I'm not a Riven main.

Dunkrius2g4 votes

"My main is http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=riven+lovejoy but I got permabanned from boards, thats why I'm posting on this account. Also I'm talking from experience, I stopped firstpicking Riven just so the enemy team could pick her so I could get a free win. I can beat Riven with every champion, even with sejuani top, ad malzahar and Zyra, but I prefer to pick Irelia because I can get fed very easily. Riven is good at punishing people for mistakes,"

Can be interpreted in two ways. You don't consider yourself as a Riven main. Or you are just plainly saying that you aren't. This is your comment. Your main account on EUW. With 348 games this season with Rievn and 319 games last season. What do you have to say about this?

rtbf2211463931 votes

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Can be interpreted in two ways. You don't consider yourself as a Riven main. Or you are just plainly saying that you aren't. This is your comment. Your main account on EUW. With 348 games this season with Rievn and 319 games last season. What do you have to say about this?

Thats not my account, the person who played on that account died one month ago. Or maybe its photoshopped.

IcyPepper1 votes

But hey, look on the bright side. If the enemy team has an assassin, you're going to give them a bad time.

NemeBro1 votes

I wouldn't worry about Darius' attack speed slow. It doesn't even work. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Seriously though, his W doesn't apply the attack speed slow like it should.

HateDaddy2 votes

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I wouldn't worry about Darius' attack speed slow. It doesn't even work. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Seriously though, his W doesn't apply the attack speed slow like it should.

Are you just canceling your auto attack reset? Lol

Because I've played against enough of them lately to know it does

NemeBro1 votes

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Are you just canceling your auto attack reset? Lol

Because I've played against enough of them lately to know it does

Really? Because I've tested it in a custom game recently with a friend and the attack speed slow didn't apply at all.

HateDaddy2 votes

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Really? Because I've tested it in a custom game recently with a friend and the attack speed slow didn't apply at all.

It can feel pretty clunky, but trust me, it's freakin there lol

NemeBro1 votes

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It can feel pretty clunky, but trust me, it's freakin there lol

My friend checked his attack speed and it wasn't dropped at all, nor was there any discernible change in his attack speed (he was playing Yasuo by the way).

I'm not the only one who has noticed this problem either.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/bug-report/P0bJmAry-video-showing-the-darius-bleed-bug-and-his-attack-speed-slow-no-longer-working

HateDaddy2 votes

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My friend checked his attack speed and it wasn't dropped at all, nor was there any discernible change in his attack speed (he was playing Yasuo by the way).

I'm not the only one who has noticed this problem either.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/bug-report/P0bJmAry-video-showing-the-darius-bleed-bug-and-his-attack-speed-slow-no-longer-working

Weird

It's defintely been working against me, bug gods Pls

Rinky Dinky2 votes

That was fixed literally 2 weeks ago

NemeBro1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lane Cancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dIuiYY8H,comment-id=0003000000000001,timestamp=2015-06-25T02:19:30.959+0000)

That was fixed literally 2 weeks ago

Got a link? Didn't see it in a patch note.

Rinky Dinky2 votes

Implying riot talks about everything in patchnotes.

News flash, they don't.

I played him 2 days ago. His W is now functioning, unless the patch TODAY brought it back.

I also tested this bug, posted about this bug, and followed this bug until it was fixed. Do your research. As far as I know, it was stealth fixed in 5.11

TehNACHO1 votes

I actually remember writing a lot about the state of Darius' kit way back in the past.

Here is the original response to a thread asking why people hate Darius' ult.

Here is a response to a thread that wants to see Darius both viable and healthy for the game, and my thoughts on how to achieve this by solving the problems pointed out in the first thread.

I was never able to get back into this discussion since the Darius threads kinda died off after my second post, but I want to point out I still have ideas for the other parts of Darius' kit that needs to be fixed that my simple Physical Damage/Armor Penetration changes cover.

Davy Crockett1 votes

Darius is the reason I never play Renekton top and why he is always a perma-ban for me. I don't care about his counters because it is still tough. Darius lives up to his name as a lane bully, but so does Cho'Gath. The only difference Darius destroys any opponent that tries to CS or trade with him in melee range in the laning phase. That is the part that needs to be reworked. So until then, he's on my permaban list.

*Upvoted cuz stuff like this needs to be fixed with Darius

The Trent1 votes

I find Darius very annoying and not fun to play against. If they can fix that (E NERF E NERF E NERF E NERF E NERF E NERF E NERF E NERF E NERF E NERF WHY IS IT THAT I FLASH OUT OF JUMP OUT OF IT BUT JUST CUS ITS A "WIND UP" I GET PULLED BACK LIKE NAW BISH NAW I PRESS W AND NIDALEE AND THEN FLASH IM LIKE 5000 FEET AWAY AND THEN I COME FLYING BACK TO HIM LIKE NAW BISH NAW.) I'm all for a Darius buff or anything like that. This is just a idea but maybe give him so mobility ( REMOVE HIS E AND REPLACE IT WITH A DASH OR SOMETHING IDC REMOVE THAT STUFF). Well anyways I know this was short but yeah that's all my ideas.

Dunkrius2g1 votes

Learn flash when he comes to you. Otherwise real Dariuses will bait out that flash. He won't need to pull u in. He can do the same with his ult.

Luner Hunter1 votes

you NEVER ask for a rework OR compensation... you will never like the outcome... viegar/sona anyone?

Dunkrius2g1 votes

Then we resort to Garen

Dracid3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Luner Hunter,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dIuiYY8H,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2015-06-25T09:11:49.347+0000)

you NEVER ask for a rework OR compensation... you will never like the outcome... viegar/sona anyone?

heimer/sion anyone?

Silents4291 votes

How many times do we need to have someone bring up Darius's current state? They have said a dozen times now that Darius will receive changes most likely before the year ends.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

They need to recode his pull. Also his kit is super antifun to play against.

Dracid1 votes

I honestly think his kit is fine. Just easy to kite which its not like he is the only one with that problem. League of Mobility is too strong. I doubt he will ever be competitively viable again

MrBuffington1 votes

Whoa wait a second, you like a champion but want them to see pro play? You want them nerfed or something? :3

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