The last human Bruiser with a sword/spear/etc was Darius..

Giggling Granny··4 votes·399 views

Its only me that i am getting tired of all this Anime looking weird champions with overloaded kits that ether are too broken or too underpower because of how unbalanced they are?

I really miss champions like xin/darius/j4/garen/olaf/pantheon/tryndamere and so on!

They may not be balanced right now or they may need some work but at least their were human warriors not some animle edgy looking champion that have 3000 escapes jump around doing what ever and because of that their kit is ether broken or underpower...

Can we have already a bruiser that its HUMAN with a freaking sword and he is beafy warrior not that thing that call his self a warrior Yasuo that thing over here he would even stand a minute in a war

Bring back humans...for real...i am really tired of this new champions...monsters...anime looking...robots...where is the humans?

And jhin may be a human but he dosent have a sword or anything and illaoi is what ever this thing is surelly not a human...

So bring back humans WARRIORS/bruisers

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Penns1 votes

Kayn is a human warrior too tho hehe

Giggling Granny1 votes

human? have you see any human looking like that?

CannonLordFreed3 votes

Yes. They were in cosplay.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Freaking lmfao.

Penns1 votes

He is a human, just got corrupted a bit by a darkin xd

SEKAI3 votes

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human? have you see any human looking like that?

Well... in this game, many champs including but not limited to Azir, Ryze, Nasus, Renekton, Nautilus, Ivern, Xerath, Aatrox, Jax, Yorick, Mordekaiser, Hecarim, Mundo, Warwick etc etc are and/or were, humans. They don't look the part, but they are/were.

Most of the champs in the game would be traced to at least some kind of human origin, as odd as it sounds given what the roster looks like.

But again, as I was saying, Riot is just exploring different kinds of fantasies with their designs, there is no reason to overstay at "human bruiser" when it's quite saturated already and there are still a ton of other things to try out and expand on.

Giggling Granny1 votes

nasus? a dog is a human? azir a bird is human? renekton? an aligator is a human? warwick? a wearwolf is humna? mordekaiser is a human? mundo is a monster...hecarim is a horse...aatrox is a demon..xerath its a force ivern its a tree..naut its titan of the se jax its a monster yorick its the only one close to human but still he is a necromaster which make him a wizard and not a warrior...

This champions are not even close to being humans

SEKAI1 votes

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nasus? a dog is a human? azir a bird is human? renekton? an aligator is a human? warwick? a wearwolf is humna? mordekaiser is a human? mundo is a monster...hecarim is a horse...aatrox is a demon..xerath its a force ivern its a tree..naut its titan of the se jax its a monster yorick its the only one close to human but still he is a necromaster which make him a wizard and not a warrior...

This champions are not even close to being humans

That's why I said "Most of the champs in the game would be traced to at least some kind of human origin, as odd as it sounds given what the roster looks like."

Read their story.

Those may not be human now, but they were. In fact, some of them still are, like Mundo and Ryze, they just got different degrees of mutation but their base constitutions are nonetheless still very much human.

Anyways, just saying that Kayn is far from being the most "inhuman human" in the game.

TakeAGuessNerd2 votes

Keyword here, "they are/WERE" Look at the lore and you'll notice that they were humans, some of them at least.

GeminiRune1 votes

So basically you don't want a human bruiser. You want some kind of armored human warrior that would apparently stand ground in what would be considered a warring battlefield. Yeah there so many champions like that already you know?

Better suggestion: ask for a Demacian Champion. You might get something off of that. Edited comment: Shields are weapons too Braum

Giggling Granny1 votes

too many champions?

J4/xin/darius/Garen/maybe fiora/olaf/tryndamere/and maybe shen

8 champions out of 120...

Ok..there too "many"

GeminiRune1 votes

Welcome to sarcasm. At least you answered your own question

DrCyanide1 votes

How many human mages are there when that's what your standard looks like?

Annie Karma Lux Syndra Taliyah Zilean

No human bruisers before more human mages! (and some guys!) /s

Giggling Granny1 votes

since when humans have magic power?

SEKAI1 votes

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since when humans have magic power?

Because fantasy genre? Or fiction in general?

I mean you could ask the same about the existence of magic in general right?

SEKAI1 votes
  • So you literally don't consider a human, a human, if they don't fit your liking (probably you just worded it badly). Nor do you consider someone a fighter unless he caters to your particular direction of power fantasy.
  • Speaking of human warriors, there doesn't seem to be any mention of female human warrior champs like Leona and Sejuani.
  • I'd assume this thread is targeted at the new guy Kayn, who does not have "3000 escapes jump around doing what ever". So yeah.
  • And dude, given you could instantly listed out so many melee macho humans on the roster, there is clearly no shortage of those tropes in this game. Ofc in this case, Riot would generally want to fulfill and explore other kinds of design fantasy, races LoL, and champion classes instead of just making sword&shield human #56. And since the range of power levels available is incredibly wide, going from your fighting general all the way to the level of gods, ofc they can't just be focusing on muscle human warriors who fight using his trusty sword or something along those lines.

..............

But seriously though, check out Dota's roster. Humans are something of exotic and extreme minorities there. But hey.

Giggling Granny1 votes

the problem is that is not even close to the "random human warrior 56" we have like 6-7 warrior champions out of 120..

And the last one was darius you know when darius was released? 2012..for god sake...that 5 years...in the last 5 years we see weird looking robot/anime/animals/what ever champions...

So for 5 years riot didnt even consider making a champion like that and i am pretty sure its not my liking..a human is well know being..

and i didnt mention leona/sejuani because they were released before darius..darius was the last human warrior then they make this pitty warrior yasuo but this guy is more like anime rather than warrior...which even if you take yasuo as warrior yasuo was released 3.5 years ago..so even if you put yasuo as last check point it still 3.5 half years without a warrior

SEKAI1 votes

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the problem is that is not even close to the "random human warrior 56" we have like 6-7 warrior champions out of 120..

And the last one was darius you know when darius was released? 2012..for god sake...that 5 years...in the last 5 years we see weird looking robot/anime/animals/what ever champions...

So for 5 years riot didnt even consider making a champion like that and i am pretty sure its not my liking..a human is well know being..

and i didnt mention leona/sejuani because they were released before darius..darius was the last human warrior then they make this pitty warrior yasuo but this guy is more like anime rather than warrior...which even if you take yasuo as warrior yasuo was released 3.5 years ago..so even if you put yasuo as last check point it still 3.5 half years without a warrior

Below is the entire list of strictly human AND mostly physical fighters in the game, not even counting former-humans or half-humans and whatnot. This is selected on the basis of that they fight with minimal or medium amount of assistance from magic or other means, and focus more towards combat prowess derived from physical strength and technology

The list is defined like that because you have to pay attention to the fact that this game is a high fantasy where the rosters also contain many of monsters, fairies, immortals and gods, and as such it's just very unlikely to have human characters physically powerful enough to be on somewhere comparable to those other character's levels enough to be put in the same game; this explains their understandable lower count when it comes to "purists" who only ever uses human's physical strength without any aid. In fact, even within your original list, only about 3 of them actually use entirely physical means of combat (maybe even just 2, because one of them is a corpse possessed by a very powerful spirit so their body may be enhanced with magic), the rest all have magical or unknown elements of combat mixed in (Trynd's temporary immortality, Garen and J4 both seem to use either magic or enchantment based magic, Olaf can call thunders and imbue his weapons with lightning).

The list also includes tool-based physical fighters, those who use tools as opposed to just brawns. These people are typically ranged or assassin characters but not always.

So the list boils down to:

Braum Camille Darius DrMundo Draven Fiora Gangplank Garen Gragas Graves JarvanIV Jayce Jhin Jinx LeeSin Leona MasterYi Olaf Pantheon Quinn Riven Sejuani Shen Singed Sion (both before and after he became a zombie) Sivir Talon Tryndamere Udyr Vayne Vi XinZhao Yasuo

(Remember I did not include former humans, people who can hardly be recognised as humans, hybrids etc or otherwise the list would've been a bit larger as well). I also did not include any mages and other magic users as per the request of this list.

That's 33 champs there. 33 out of 137 (I also may have missed a couple here and there), it means there are 24% of the roster being human physical fighter alone. That's not a bad percentage of representation when we also have hybrids, other species, gods, elementals and whatnot in the roster, as well other more magical heavy class fantasies, to mind as well.

...........

As I was saying,

"Riot would generally want to fulfill and explore other kinds of design fantasy, races LoL, and champion classes instead of just making sword&shield human #56. And since the range of power levels available is incredibly wide, going from your fighting general all the way to the level of gods, ofc they can't just be focusing on muscle human warriors who fight using his trusty sword or something along those lines."

Giggling Granny1 votes

according to your logic urgot is a human too....

I dont know if your IQ is 5 or you trolling because if you cant understand the concept of HUMAN warrior with sword...and stuff

You say that a robot is a human a zombie is a human and a monster is a human..SINCE WHEN DO YOU SEE HUMANS LIKE THAT?

But i understand why you people want this edgy anime champions because real warrior humans look like the ones that bully you in high school and take your girls..that why you like this edgy skinny guys because it fullfill the fantasy of the anime loser who think that when he buy a katana from amazon that he is a ninja..even when he weight 200kg..

You people are sad

SEKAI1 votes

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according to your logic urgot is a human too....

Urgot is a human actually. Before his rework, he was a corpse that was patched together really badly and hardly recognisable as a human, but after rework he is a human; though since the rework hasn't actually launched so that's why I didn't include him in the list. After rework he's just a human on a machine now. Think of terminally ill patients connected countless machines, but with cannons strapped to his sick bed, that's the new Urgot; being inches away from kicking the bucket doesn't mean a person is not human.

I dont know if your IQ is 5 or you trolling because if you cant understand the concept of HUMAN warrior with sword...and stuff

Because it doesn't need to be a human warrior with a sword and beefy armours to be considered a "real human warrior"? With this logic none of today's soldiers are warriors because they all use guns now, good luck telling anybody who'd served in the army that. With this logic archers are not considered warriors, yeah tell that to any archers back then and they'll send you packing or better you can try the Ancient Mongols who almost conquered half of Europe with their infamous horseback archery. With this logic, any dexterity or smart approach to warfare are not considered warriors, yeah good luck telling that to those people who fight like that.

"Knight in shiny armour" is not all there is to it to be called a "warrior". Your definition is way too inflexible. People fight in many ways, even if we boil it down to physical fighting. There is no 1 true way of fighting to be called "real human warrior". "Warrior" describes an attitude, not a fighting form.

Even then, the point of that list is that there are about 25% of the roster are human physical fighters, which is not a bad representation percentage in any stretch of the imagination considering the kind of scope we're dealing with in League, and about half of which is melee. So the point still stands, the theme is not being underused.

You say that a robot is a human a zombie is a human and a monster is a human..SINCE WHEN DO YOU SEE HUMANS LIKE THAT?

I only mentioned Sion because only his W and a bit of his R uses magic. And before he became a zombie, he's said to be just as strong, physically, as a towering colossus Galio that's depicted to be at least 25-30 floors high. That's why he's on the list, because that's exactly what you're asking for, an inhumanly strong human warrior who prides on his muscle.

But apparently you don't like that just because he's currently a zombie due to this story. How picky are you?

But i understand why you people want this edgy anime champions because real warrior humans look like the ones that bully you in high school and take your girls..that why you like this edgy skinny guys because it fullfill the fantasy of the anime loser who think that when he buy a katana from amazon that he is a ninja..even when he weight 200kg..

You people are sad

lol wtf. So I spent so much time detailing my take on your topic and this is what I get in return, a fucking insult, at me and at all sorts of random people that have done you no wrong to get this shit?

Screw you and whatever you stand for.

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