RIOT? Yasuo, Lee Sin, Riven, Fizz, Kassadin, Akali, Ahri, LeBlanc, Zed, Vayne

Radiant Wukong··4 votes·764 views

I've seen thousands of post worth of complaints each (that's over 11k total, no exaggeration) pertaining to their kit and how easy it is for them to engage and burst the enemy. The only person who received nerfs of the titled bunch is Kassadin, but it absolutely didn't change his play style at all.

I've never seen a single post from anyone ever complaining about Talon's blink. I'll admit, I've seen plenty of post complaining about Cutthroat's silence and damage amplification, but never about the blink itself.

So my question for RIOT is, why was the blink removed if nobody ever had an issue with it.

Removed damage amplifier, cool. Removed silence, cool. Removed blink, not cool.

The blink itself was never an issue and should have never been changed.

The rest of his kit should remain the same. Passive, unchanged Close ranged Q, unchanged W, unchanged E, unchanged R, unchanged

Long range Q, 550 unit face check dash changed to 650 unit behind opponent blink (cutthroat's original range and mobility). It was never broken, therefore didn't need to be fixed.

17 Comments

archerno13 votes

Only Kassa received nerfs?

Yasuo, Fizz, Lee got nerfed last patch

DunkinNoobs1 votes

He means in the last 5 minutes, I think.

Winters Dawn2 votes

Lee sin is like that fly in your house that you cant kill. It'll land on you then fly away over and over and ovwr.

B00B001 votes

i dont understand, Talon is in a great spot right now, he was changed to allow for counterplay as opposed to an AOE assassin he is now a back-line, mobile roaming split pushing beast of an assassin.

what exactly is your complaint here?

  • Kassadin was Legit busted and has been toned down its nothing about re-working him or changing him its about toning down his power spike(s) ?

again im sorry what are you complaining about?

Radiant Wukong1 votes

That all got stat checked, their gameplay is the exact same. All of them have their identical kits. RIOT violated all Talon mains by compleyely changing his identity. Now I have to use lame ass Nocturne/Zed.

B00B001 votes

most Talon Mains prefer the new talon so your not right here, go to Talon Mains reddit, every High-ELO talon still plays talon as they love the new identity.

nocturne is nothing like old Talon and neither is Zed, personally i love Zeds as a Talon main they ult me i ult as he lands and Zed implodes in a fiery wrath of blades.

  • Zed has much more outplay potential in team fights he always has had, its his thing, outplay potential but Talon is no sneese either.
Radiant Wukong1 votes

I'm saying they're still strong in lane and it's extremely easy for them to get to their target. Talon requires the enemy front line to cc'd unless he wants to wastes half the damage from his ult to get back there.

B00B001 votes

erm, as an assassin your meant to flank or come in from the sides, failing that you can split push and pull a target or two towards you, your not meant to wade into the back line with all enemy CD's up, you need to be patient and wait them clear up a TF or end it before it begins by picking off a carry.

Talon is VERY good at this as he can get in and out via wall hops and is actually less telegraphed than zeds shadows (if he uses his shadow as an engage rather than a disengage).

  • i fail to see the problem.

maybe i'm mis-understanding your point here....

Radiant Wukong1 votes

Then all the other assassins need to be brought into line then, because the only other assassin this whole be patient thing currently applies to is Khazix . The rest can easily engage and blow up the carry in a team fight. They die right after but they take out the most important damage dealer on the enemy team.

Talon and Kha'zix get blown up if they even attempt the shit every other assassin gets away with.

B00B001 votes

Talon and Kha'zix get blown up if they even attempt the shit every other assassin gets away with.

No.

Bad Talons and Kha's get blown up, good ones will wipe a carry and then re-engage on new CD's, good Kha's will reset there jump and demolish a clean up with nothing getting away.

a good Talon can kite for days, never get caught and kill inside the jungle and take atleast two carries with him, his AOE damage is still there if you know his Combo(s) to multi-proc his passive.

Radiant Wukong1 votes

Ideally I try to WQAA > RQAA The best double proc of passive is QWAA > RQAA because if you lead with Q it'll be on CD quicker.

My example pertained to a 5v5 team fight with 10 full health champions, sorry I wasn't clear. The other assassins have enough mobility to dive in and won't get touched until after they've reached the ADC. Kha'zix and Talon can only do this if the fight happens in jungler/river.

Pommel Knight1 votes

Yea kassadin only got nerfs, lee totally dint get his ult nerfed a lot, Yasuo didn't get his e nerfed to the point he doesn't max it first. Fizz totally didn't get 75 dmg lets on his w base.

Nahui1 votes

You still complaining about zed, one of the lowest win rate mid laners and the one assassin Riot has publicly announced is the perfect example of a healthy assassin?

Radiant Wukong1 votes

I see you never got any good comprehension scores, can you quote where I complained about Zed?

Nahui1 votes

It's in the title. Leave him out of the title.

Radiant Wukong1 votes

It's not a complaint, it's a comparison. Read before you comment. You probably were the kid that never passed you're reading assignments cause you skimmed through and made assumptions. I'm not entertaining your ignorance any longer.

Nahui1 votes

Leave him out of titles so he's not associated with the rest. Even so much as lumping him in makes people view him as a problem. Simple as that. Break the conversation on zed so real balance for real problems can be discussed.

Mindless insults don't do anything either, not sure why you harp on the same narrative over and over.

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