Her jungle can still be done but revolves around just ganking 2-3 lines then jungling into the same thing.
I just find it funny that riot is trying to force top lane camille to be the only camille but despite the nerfs it's pretty much 50/50 on the play rate of top lane vs jungle camille.
Sir Saltarin5 votesNo.
Camille Jungle should have never been viable in the first place, the only thing that Riot did wrong was waiting so long to gut her in the Jng.
XJ999999999999991 votes[{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ckITvxV6,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-27T02:39:41.804+0000)
No.
Camille Jungle should have never been viable in the first place, the only thing that Riot did wrong was waiting so long to gut her in the Jng.
Camille is a lot similar to Vi though, and Vi was designed to be a top laner. It's just riot is going with "no, shes a top laner" even though vi was just like Camille at a design stand point.
Sir Saltarin2 votesAnd then ask yourself why Camille kit is problematic as a Jng and why Vi isn't.
Because it's not like Riot randomly decided to gut Camille Jng.
Ask yourself why that happened.
XJ999999999999991 votes[{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ckITvxV6,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-05-27T03:09:22.041+0000)
And then ask yourself why Camille kit is problematic as a Jng and why Vi isn't.
Because it's not like Riot randomly decided to gut Camille Jng.
Ask yourself why that happened.
I never found Camille to be problematic. I used to do it all the time before it was considered a real thing/done in the LCS or what have you. Sadly, she kept getting nerfed, which I found surprising considering at the time, there were plenty of "must picks" in solo Q and pro play that deal the same if not more damage but not touched.
Riot even admitted that they nerfed Camille Jungle so hard with the R duration nerf because it feels unfun for a casual player playing the game, which is the majority of their revenue. They gutted it for that reason which is silly.
Also, Riot doesn't get balance done right a lot of the time. So just because they choose to get rid of her stun/heal doesn't mean it was correct to do.
Sir Saltarin1 votesI never found Camille to be problematic
Good thing they dont balance the game around what a Camille Jng player thinks
Look, I dont really care about what you feel towards Camille Jng because she was cancer and it's not coming back, keep lying when you pretend that she's just like Vi and saying how awful is Riot for nerfing her etc etc
She's not coming back regardless
Tr4shB4NSYST3M3 votesFk camille jg, Her mobility around the JG is as fast as Lee sin, and she has more dangerous ganks than he does AND can gank lvl 2. Camille jg can stay in the trash.
XJ999999999999991 votesFk camille jg, Her mobility around the JG is as fast as Lee sin, and she has more dangerous ganks than he does AND can gank lvl 2. Camille jg can stay in the trash.
Lee isn't that much of a priority pick anymore due to other champions being re-adjusted and newer champs being on par with their overloaded kits.
The biggest reason people don't like Camille is just because her ult prevents the player from moving out of a space, and people psychologically do not like being forced in a position/spot in that way.
Sir Saltarin1 votesNo, nobody liked Camille Jng because she could gank at lvl 2 with Red with a 800 range jump (+ the tiny jump) that has a stun on it, her engage on a base skill + her dmg was too strong to be a balanced Jungler.
And she was busted on pro play as a Jng, that also helped Riot to make the great decision to gut Camille Jng.
Thank Riot for gutting diverse ways to play champs that were bringing nothing but cancer to the game. You are doing amazing.
XJ999999999999991 votes[{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ckITvxV6,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-27T03:08:02.806+0000)
No, nobody liked Camille Jng because she could gank at lvl 2 with Red with a 800 range jump (+ the tiny jump) that has a stun on it, her engage on a base skill + her dmg was too strong to be a balanced Jungler.
And she was busted on pro play as a Jng, that also helped Riot to make the great decision to gut Camille Jng.
Thank Riot for gutting diverse ways to play champs that were bringing nothing but cancer to the game. You are doing amazing.
They nerfed the duration. Also Vi can do the same thing, especially with flash. Vi has a better winrate overall across all the games. But I digress.
She can still do the gank, she is still being played, but it's just unfortunate that she is in this limbo where riot doesn't like her being jungle but the players clearly do.
Sir Saltarin1 votesAlso Vi can do the same thing
Dont lie, comparing the engage of Vi to the engage of Camille and pretending it's the same it's just false man. Vi Q engage is way slower and shorter than Camille E.
Since right now Camille Top has almost x3 the pickrate than Camille Jng I dont see that many players wanting her to be a jungler
But anyway what does players that want her Jng feel or want is irrelevant because the game isn't balanced around what they want
Camille Jng wont ever be buffed and the rest of the players are glad of it
forist1 votesNope, there are a few champions that are just too cancerous when played in the jungle role to be allowed viability. Camille, ezreal, and taliyah are all great examples of this. Riot doesn't want these champions in the jungle, because their players don't want these champions in the jungle. end of discussion.
XJ999999999999991 votesNope, there are a few champions that are just too cancerous when played in the jungle role to be allowed viability. Camille, ezreal, and taliyah are all great examples of this. Riot doesn't want these champions in the jungle, because their players don't want these champions in the jungle. end of discussion.
taliyah is actually a fine jungler. camille as well but its just to encourage farming instead of camille being forced to be oppressive. Also, im pretty sure the majority of camille mains would want her in the jungle.
forist1 votesYou're only speaking from the perspective of the player playing camille or taliyah. If you stop and think about how it feels to be the enemy players playing against camille or taliyah jungle then you'd have an easier time understanding why riot pushed them out of the jungle role.
Pandemic Punch1 votesCamille in the jungle is like giving Vi hyper mobility and putting her ult on a 10 second CD
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Camille in the jungle is like giving Vi hyper mobility and putting her ult on a 10 second CD
140 / 115 / 90 - camille ult
120 / 100 / 80 - vi ult
ok
Moonscourge1 votesI really don't want to get ganked by yet another jungler that bypasses wards and just jumps over walls as if they are nothing. It's good she was nerfed out of that role.
Myrmiron1 votesNah thanks, no more chinese boosting pls