it's always "that item makes him unable to do anything" instead of "X player is doing a great job at sustaining between bursts"?
But when faker does something, especially with a huge gold advantage, it's "OMG FAKER IS A GOD, YOU CAN'T STOP THIS GOD, JUST THE OUTPLAY OH MY GOD, CRUSHED".
casters suck up to him too much and neglect the other players who are doing good against him. I just find it funny.
420 grams18 votesThe one Yasuo streamer got super popular after he killed him once
General Esdeath 2 votes[{quoted}](name=420 grams,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=03PPPwhn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-12T17:28:30.950+0000)
The one Yasuo streamer got super popular after he killed him once
who
AetherArising2 votesYassuo is the streamer’s name
General Esdeath 4 votesYassuo is the streamer’s name
I thought he got famous for his laugh lmao
Need Gold 4 Tent3 votesI thought he got famous for his laugh lmao
Nah, his big nose
agac42341 voteswell not really he got big becuase he was good but killing faker just gave him a boost.
F1lmboy17 votesI think part of the reason is Faker himself hasn't really been playing badly, he's been generally keeping up or ahead in lane. And he's been playing champs that scale well (like Azir) so the expectation is that he will carry later teamfights.
When he can't, because of whatever item or something the opponents buy, it will certainly be forced into that perspective. Even in your shit soloq games, you have those moments where you're really fed/farmed but enemy Zhonya's or whatever makes you feel useless (at least I do)
mrmeddyman16 votesYeah you must not watch "real" sports if you think that this is a unique phenomenon.
Casters treat LeBron, Messi and any other leading athlete like they can do no wrong because for many sports that athlete is the face of the brand
XJ999999999999993 votesYeah you must not watch "real" sports if you think that this is a unique phenomenon.
Casters treat LeBron, Messi and any other leading athlete like they can do no wrong because for many sports that athlete is the face of the brand
don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say it was a unique phenomenon. Obviously happens in other sports but I'm just talking about this one thing that is league of legends related on the league of legends boards.
Wimbledofy9 votesSince obviously it happens in other sports, that would mean obviously it happens here. So then the "how come..." becomes a pointless question since you obviously already know the reason.
Thefrostyviking14 votesThat first line of yours makes one think faker is playing either Zed and enemy has 
, or he is playing some mage and the enemy has either 
or 
so he cant get anything decisive done......at which point the casters comment is fair.
As for them sucking up to him......are you new to listening to casters in league? Many of these guys will get hyped over basically nothing ( nice positioning, syndra R-E multi stun etc) and several of them sound like they are sucking up at those points.
Its easy for them to do it with Faker because he is well known, liked, and does have great skills that enables him to make some great plays here and there which makes it easy to ignore the "over-hyping" of lesser stuff.
In short, casters are just looking to do their job and seem active, even if they overhype some stuff that still better for them than being silent or extremely sparse with words most of the time as they are supposed to provide a commentary.
XJ999999999999997 votesThat first line of yours makes one think faker is playing either Zed and enemy has
As for them sucking up to him......are you new to listening to casters in league? Many of these guys will get hyped over basically nothing ( nice positioning, syndra R-E multi stun etc) and several of them sound like they are sucking up at those points.
Its easy for them to do it with Faker because he is well known, liked, and does have great skills that enables him to make some great plays here and there which makes it easy to ignore the "over-hyping" of lesser stuff.
In short, casters are just looking to do their job and seem active, even if they overhype some stuff that still better for them than being silent or extremely sparse with words most of the time as they are supposed to provide a commentary.
nope. only the recent msi games. faker can't do anything vs draven but instead of praising the draven for not fully committing and just playing the objective game they just said "bloodthirster makes faker unable to do anything here" instead of "this draven is doing a great job".
the game they lost to with the pyke top was just them constantly talking about him and sometimes about miss fortune's ult. He had to blow flash due to over committing near t2 tower but instead of saying he had a positioning error they said "oh faker needs flash to not get flanked and taken out" when it wasn't even a flank, it was people in front of him that were behind a wall but they knew they were there (hence the flash for pykes Q). He should have not over committed to the one person to reserve the flash.
The reason they lost that game so hard is because they kept blowing summoners for 1-2 kills meanwhile the other team used 0-1 summoner for 2-3 kills constantly.
It's sad to see people constantly call this game a team game, yet don't act like it a lot of the times. Players are only able to make certain plays because their teammates enabled them to. This is why the old top/jungle from old SKT left. They didn't get any raises, only faker did, and faker got all the credit in a TEAM game.
In my OPINION (OPINION BTW), faker is not as good as people make him out to be. In the same game where they lost in 16 minutes, phreak is having a crush on faker going "FAKER, BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME IN THE WORLD SUPER MLG CLUTCH PLAYER" meanwhile he walked away from his team, having to blow flash due to positioning error, and then got ganked level 2 by camille pretty much putting them in a terrible spot. That single play is the reason they lost that game so hard. Early summoners burned for no reason against a hyper ganker like Camille who won't farm raptors/krugs until 5 mins into the game just to wait for a new opportunity to gank. But because he's faker, let's not point out how the "small" misplay as actually the biggest misplay of that game. Won the level 1 fight, went apart from his team and had to flash, and that led to taric also blowing his flash. Not fakers fault btw perfect player best player in the world btw
also when varus flashed into fakers face during the fight at baron when he was playing azir and he didn't ult until 3 autos in. He hesitated to ult and/or didn't have the reaction time to expect such an aggressive play and got destroyed. If he ulted instantly he probably would have gotten a quadra. Most reaction times in this game are just muscle memory and knowing that a champion has an ability. He didn't expect that so didn't calculate it until it was way too late. The best player in the world would have expected anything and ulted instantly.
VanTurino3 votesWelcome to sports casting... E-sports casting (You see how that relates). Faker IS one of the most well known pro's in LoL if not the most known and probably the first name a new player hears IMO. Riot is trying to expand, build a solid fan base of their E-Sport. Giving people a star to root for is just the beginning of creating a solid base market. So by hyping up one person (as of right now) is just the beginning. Then a new "God" will emerge who competes with him and suddenly you have a rivalry (this has happened before in LoL already) but now it is more publicized than it has been in the past with recent deals to expand LoL e-Sport. Truthfully it sucks because pointing out an example like you had said about Draven, if they pointed out the good play in every person's game would be good for learning the game for most people. With that said, the announcer could also just need more experience with the game himself to say "this is a good play from Draven to avoid going all-in and play for the objective". I don't really know these guy's experience Cause frankly I don't care, IMHO.
Dedenne3 votesnope. only the recent msi games. faker can't do anything vs draven but instead of praising the draven for not fully committing and just playing the objective game they just said "bloodthirster makes faker unable to do anything here" instead of "this draven is doing a great job".
the game they lost to with the pyke top was just them constantly talking about him and sometimes about miss fortune's ult. He had to blow flash due to over committing near t2 tower but instead of saying he had a positioning error they said "oh faker needs flash to not get flanked and taken out" when it wasn't even a flank, it was people in front of him that were behind a wall but they knew they were there (hence the flash for pykes Q). He should have not over committed to the one person to reserve the flash.
The reason they lost that game so hard is because they kept blowing summoners for 1-2 kills meanwhile the other team used 0-1 summoner for 2-3 kills constantly.
It's sad to see people constantly call this game a team game, yet don't act like it a lot of the times. Players are only able to make certain plays because their teammates enabled them to. This is why the old top/jungle from old SKT left. They didn't get any raises, only faker did, and faker got all the credit in a TEAM game.
In my OPINION (OPINION BTW), faker is not as good as people make him out to be. In the same game where they lost in 16 minutes, phreak is having a crush on faker going "FAKER, BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME IN THE WORLD SUPER MLG CLUTCH PLAYER" meanwhile he walked away from his team, having to blow flash due to positioning error, and then got ganked level 2 by camille pretty much putting them in a terrible spot. That single play is the reason they lost that game so hard. Early summoners burned for no reason against a hyper ganker like Camille who won't farm raptors/krugs until 5 mins into the game just to wait for a new opportunity to gank. But because he's faker, let's not point out how the "small" misplay as actually the biggest misplay of that game. Won the level 1 fight, went apart from his team and had to flash, and that led to taric also blowing his flash. Not fakers fault btw perfect player best player in the world btw
also when varus flashed into fakers face during the fight at baron when he was playing azir and he didn't ult until 3 autos in. He hesitated to ult and/or didn't have the reaction time to expect such an aggressive play and got destroyed. If he ulted instantly he probably would have gotten a quadra. Most reaction times in this game are just muscle memory and knowing that a champion has an ability. He didn't expect that so didn't calculate it until it was way too late. The best player in the world would have expected anything and ulted instantly.
Well, draven buying bt doesnt make him a good player. Sure the player might be good, but buying the bt isnt the reason.
Thefrostyviking3 votesI havent really watched at all lately but ....for real though, very few can actually do anything about a Draven with bloodthirster.
If you cant outright 100 to 0 him he will just heal back extremely fast with his Q.....so if faker was on a mage that doesnt specialize in burst then its actually reasonable to say that he cant do squat because Draven got BT.
Had Draven gotten IE or something it would still be doable, he wouldnt have a mini barrier+lifesteal to keep him alive but he did.
That pyke thing does sound bad though x)
However you seem misinformed in regards to bengi....or blank? And duke.
Bengi and blank both started out pretty well when they first joined but as time went later after they started playing properly they both started being highly inconsistent and struggled¨....perhaps due to meta changes? Things changed extremely fast back then too.
Multiple jungle reworks and more, in interviews they both mentioned stress if i recall.
Furthermore its actually pretty well known that Blank especially was friends with Faker, they were even roommates at a time and got around extremely well together.
Duke from what i heard played really well at the start but then fell off but honestly there is a real lack off into, maybe he didnt get along with the rest?
If looking further back we got MaRin.
However in a interview MaRIn states that the reason he quit was because he wanted to prove himself independently from SKT as he felt people de-valued his skills due to how great SKT was as a team at the time. He went looking for his own stage to shine. He also states that he felt that he got along really well with the team but it was time to try to stake it out on his own.
Then ive heard that SKT went and picked Sona+taric botlane and basically went trolling a few games here and there to throw off ....IG? From finding out their main strategies.
Now for the final play with a Varus flashing into Faker on Azir.........who knows really? I didnt watch so i cant even make a good guess....maybe faker though he could OS the Varus with a Q +some autos and didnt need to ult?
But then he realized a lack of damage so he ults, albeit delayed. .......well this is all arbitrary guesswork though.
Saevum2 votesTL;DR casters are faking an orgasm.
Larriet1 votesI don't even watch eSports, but last year I distinctly remember hearing a VOD last year (was """watching""" for the missions) when I accidentally turned the sound on where Phreak yells, "THE FIRST WESTERN TEAM IN SEMIFINALS EVER ... IN 6 YEARS!". Obviously not unique to League, but still pretty silly! lol
Daedric Etwahl7 votesTo be honest this brings to mind the final game of the Worlds 2017 Finals. Everyone was so focused on how SKT's adc (Bang, i think) lost them the series, which was fair iirc he played like ass, but nobody cared to mention anything about Faker's misplays.
An example: Game 3, at 33 minutes in Blank gets caught out at wolves and dies, and then seconds later Faker on Karma just randomly walks into melee range of the enemy Cho'Gath, hits the backline with a weak Q, and dies with Flash up as Phreak did mention to be fair, but I saw no one comment on this misplay. Also the fight that lost them the finals started with Faker getting caught by a Flash Varus ult and dying, with Phreak in the same breath still calling him the "Unkillable Demon King" (on that note can we stop calling him these ridiculous monikers??)
Still, saw absolutely no one mention or want to talk about Faker's misplays, only about how he was "1v9" or "blank and bang are basically inting" or "poor Faker he's trying so hard" and don't you dare not want to suck Faker's dick or hope SKT wins because then your opinion is wrong
GinoSoldier6 votesOne of the dozen reasons i never watch E-sports or streams.
3TWarrior5 votesmainly because modern league is very superficial. It's not skill if you die to ANYTHING
there was a great video showing Zed vs Zed with Faker and it involved point blank jukes, split second timing and a coordination that was in no way premeditated
now people try to compare that to being invisible for a few seconds and getting lucky as you spam an abusable kit, or pressing a button and catching the opponent, instantly killing them
ChompyWulf4 votesSeveral thoughts.
First, someone griped about the "Unkillable Demon King" nickname. Yes, it sounds a little silly, but when you have a completely insane highlight moment in a Korean final between the Telecom rivals where he completely outplayed the enemy midlaner, he damn well earned that and you can't just take it away. If you haven't seen the Faker Zed vs Ryu Zed, go find it. I'm not a fan of the nickname either, but you can't deny he earned it.
Second, he is the best LOL pro, period. Go back and look at who the other top Midlane players were in Season 3. Now see if any others are still playing or even on a top team. Part of what makes Faker special is how long he's been a top name, though numerous metas, having played and beaten the best using assassins, mages, caster supports, and tank supports, even taking an occasional Olaf mid to style on a poor IWC player. He's not invincible, but there hasn't yet been any other midlaner who comes close to his sustained success. Naturally at times because of all this, commentary will be focused on what he can do opposed to what an opponent does.
That said, a caster comment when Faker gets melted by a fed Draven like "Faker can't do anything because of the Bloodthirster" just as easily lets you know the other guy did well. I mean, do you need a caster to break down the axe catches by Draven? When the champ doesn't offer a skill outplay that can be broken down, and clearly can steamroll thanks to a sustain item, what else do you expect the caster to talk about?
Other follow up comments... Way to cherry pick Game 3 World's 2017 at 33 minutes. Too bad at that point Bang already threw, SSG got Baron easy as a result, and because of Ardent Censer meta and SKT'S ADC twice being a tard and feeding left Faker with no choice but to survive and lose or die and probably still lose but at least you tried something. This specific choice only shows hate for the player and absolutely zero context for the play you're criticizing.
And then talking about that G2 match where Kahn kept getting caught repeatedly and casters kept praising the Pyke, Jankos ganks with Jarvan, mentioning Caps roams....oh wait, they barely were talking about Faker that game. What's your beef?
Someone else already spoke on top laners and junglers for SKT. Frankly they should have ditched Blank long before because he was horribly inconsistent. Most players left SKT after getting a trophy hoping to be the star on a new team and get a payday. Look at Impact. Marin and Duke follow that mold. Peanut only wanted an international trophy. None of them have faulted Faker or casters, why should you?
Someone commenting on Rookie crushing Faker "like a bug." Let's be honest for a moment about that champ select...Irelia against Ryze in mid, and that pesky IG Camille jungler factor too...you want to make this about skill when clearly the draft wasn't meta picks from SKT?
I understand fatigue, but seriously this hate train is silly.
TheRunicBlade3 votesthis^ [sg-ahri-2]
Bouncemaster Zac3 votesBecause he's "the best LoL player on Earth" (he isn't) and the spectacle of him holding that title brings in views when he plays.
ChompyWulf1 votesName another player still around since season 3 that can play assassins, control mages, burst mages, mage supports, and tank supports at an international professional level. Then we can talk about him not being the best. I'll wait.
Mech hi1 votesWhile still playing as a pro since season 3 is cool and being able to play a wide variety of champs is great. Doesnt mean he is the best. Worlds 2018 he got swept and he wasn't even at Worlds 2019. Him and his team lost a 16 min game last time I watched a team lose like that was the all female team from Russia iirc. Faker is a legend and an amazing player but right now I cant say he is the best.
ChompyWulf2 votesYou're confusing individual talent and skill with team success. The sweep SKT suffered in Worlds? You're a fool if you blame Faker. The team struggling next year? There's a reason SKT dumped everyone but Faker, they all had peaked and were falling. Who is a better today, has been better for at least a split?
ZaFishbone3 votesFanboy mentality. The same thing that had people swearing that TFBlade didn't say the N-word on stream, even tho he clearly said it. But ppl were insisting on convoluted theories to exonerate him, like, for example, that he said the first part of 'negative', then for some reason didn't say the second part. People's favorite star can do no wrong, every time something doesn't go his way, it's because of an outside factor beyond his control.
Thefrostyviking2 votesHe did say %%%%%% one time as i recall and there was no reaction whatsoever, the second time when there was a huge ass thing where he got banned and his team got involved he seemed about to say the N-word but went like Niiii----diots.
Which is safe, barely safe but safe nonetheless.....which would explain how he did get unbanned.
G Master Hung3 votesYea. Rookie crushed Faker like a bug, Faker isn't the best IMO anymore.
HeeroTX1 votesEnglish language casters (and NA in particular) push "brand" over "skill", its part of the problem with the NA region as a whole. Its better for business to make note of doublelift (who has a ton of followers) rather than an unknown "up and coming" rookie. Faker is the Tom Brady of league, ie. the leader of a multi-year dynasty. Most guys won't be seen as a really big deal until they're basically past their prime. (which is not to say "not any good" but not necessarily the "best" anymore)
Dingding1231 votesAaand then they nerf whatever tactic Faker was using. Every time.
lasreveR1 votesIt is tough to see him get beat by guys like Caps and Rookie over and over again, but I think it's more a byproduct of the meta and shifting playstyle. Before where it used to be win lane, win game and Faker was just more mechanically dominant then everyone, he could focus on going aggro and carrying. But now since it's quicker paced and more team fight oriented, he's being forced to powerfarm for late game scaling and I've even seen SKT use him as zoning support for Clid and Khan.
I definitely think that the casters give him way more shine than everyone because of his image to the sport and they could definitely do a better job giving credit to the opposition, but I think they've done a fair job giving the other midlaners their shine too. You can't say the casters don't do their diligence analyzing Rookie, Caps or even Jensen in the games. The team I really feel sad for is Flashwolves, they're about to steal 4th from us and they hardly give them the coverage they deserve.
BigBellBrute2 votes. The team I really feel sad for is Flashwolves, they're about to steal 4th from us and they hardly give them the coverage they deserve.
Oh no they're not. :) They didn't get the chance because LQ beat G2. And there is a big difference between last year's LQ and this year's. Last year LQ got a chance to steal it courtesy of Fnatic not putting it away and couldn't get the job done. This year's LQ team didn't even leave it hanging to be stolen.
lasreveR1 votesYup! I stand corrected. I was nervous our boys wouldn't beat a big team, but we came through clutch and dominant. I think we have a chance against IG, they're so talented but they're pretty confident. If they play safer than the group stage it's theirs to lose, but TL is capable of figuring out any team, so in a Bo5 it could happen. It probably won't, but lets hope haha.
Cevrad1 votesI'm not a rose colored glasses kind of guy. But holy crap has SKT as a whole been super disrespectful in this tournament. Maybe they learned nothing from sitting on the couch during Worlds last year watching all 3 Korean teams fall in the exact same manner. Early game is what it is about, why are they drafting for late game?
III BAKURYU III 1 votesThe thing is.............those players on SKT at this year's MSI isn't the real SKT members..........they're clones of such. The real SKT players will be back later as they're on vacation after winning LCK.
Faker and company will be back May 14th to take on IG in the World Final I mean MSI Final
DalekZec1 votesI wonder if I beat Faker in a 1v1 there will be a huge angry mob outside my uni...
I kinda feel bad for faker. Too much expectation is put on him.
Wolvahulk1 votesUmm what ? They do that to every single player, I hate how they overhype shit but its not only faker, I mean when Rookie was kinda beating him the casters where shouting their lungs out.
Ztoka1 votesI've watched his stream once or twice before.. Despite him being a great player, his game play/spazzy clicking makes it very unappealing to watch.
BigBellBrute1 votesit's always "that item makes him unable to do anything" instead of "X player is doing a great job at sustaining between bursts"?
But when faker does something, especially with a huge gold advantage, it's "OMG FAKER IS A GOD, YOU CAN'T STOP THIS GOD, JUST THE OUTPLAY OH MY GOD, CRUSHED".
casters suck up to him too much and neglect the other players who are doing good against him. I just find it funny.
You will find they do that with a lot of players. Just look at Aphromoo. There was a week where he literally made one play the whole time. And it was an easy play that even a bronze Ali could make. AAAAAAAPHROMOO WE LOVE YOU, AAAAAAAPHROMOO WE DOOOOOO..... Boom, he's on the Penta, and the Dive and This or that. Even in the finals, sure TSM's top laner had a great first two games, but after that not so much. And they were still gushing on him. Of course they always gush on TSM but even more so on their top laner.