How come everytime Faker is getting owned

XJ99999999999999·5/12/2019, 5:24:00 PM·60 votes·17,174 views

it's always "that item makes him unable to do anything" instead of "X player is doing a great job at sustaining between bursts"?

But when faker does something, especially with a huge gold advantage, it's "OMG FAKER IS A GOD, YOU CAN'T STOP THIS GOD, JUST THE OUTPLAY OH MY GOD, CRUSHED".

casters suck up to him too much and neglect the other players who are doing good against him. I just find it funny.

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420 grams5/12/2019, 5:28:30 PM18 votes

The one Yasuo streamer got super popular after he killed him once

F1lmboy5/12/2019, 8:00:53 PM17 votes

I think part of the reason is Faker himself hasn't really been playing badly, he's been generally keeping up or ahead in lane. And he's been playing champs that scale well (like Azir) so the expectation is that he will carry later teamfights.

When he can't, because of whatever item or something the opponents buy, it will certainly be forced into that perspective. Even in your shit soloq games, you have those moments where you're really fed/farmed but enemy Zhonya's or whatever makes you feel useless (at least I do)

mrmeddyman5/12/2019, 7:35:43 PM16 votes

Yeah you must not watch "real" sports if you think that this is a unique phenomenon.

Casters treat LeBron, Messi and any other leading athlete like they can do no wrong because for many sports that athlete is the face of the brand

Thefrostyviking5/12/2019, 6:18:02 PM14 votes

That first line of yours makes one think faker is playing either Zed and enemy has item 3157 , or he is playing some mage and the enemy has either item 3139 or item 3102 so he cant get anything decisive done......at which point the casters comment is fair.

As for them sucking up to him......are you new to listening to casters in league? Many of these guys will get hyped over basically nothing ( nice positioning, syndra R-E multi stun etc) and several of them sound like they are sucking up at those points.

Its easy for them to do it with Faker because he is well known, liked, and does have great skills that enables him to make some great plays here and there which makes it easy to ignore the "over-hyping" of lesser stuff.

In short, casters are just looking to do their job and seem active, even if they overhype some stuff that still better for them than being silent or extremely sparse with words most of the time as they are supposed to provide a commentary.

Daedric Etwahl5/12/2019, 8:21:54 PM7 votes

To be honest this brings to mind the final game of the Worlds 2017 Finals. Everyone was so focused on how SKT's adc (Bang, i think) lost them the series, which was fair iirc he played like ass, but nobody cared to mention anything about Faker's misplays.

An example: Game 3, at 33 minutes in Blank gets caught out at wolves and dies, and then seconds later Faker on Karma just randomly walks into melee range of the enemy Cho'Gath, hits the backline with a weak Q, and dies with Flash up as Phreak did mention to be fair, but I saw no one comment on this misplay. Also the fight that lost them the finals started with Faker getting caught by a Flash Varus ult and dying, with Phreak in the same breath still calling him the "Unkillable Demon King" (on that note can we stop calling him these ridiculous monikers??)

Still, saw absolutely no one mention or want to talk about Faker's misplays, only about how he was "1v9" or "blank and bang are basically inting" or "poor Faker he's trying so hard" and don't you dare not want to suck Faker's dick or hope SKT wins because then your opinion is wrong

GinoSoldier5/12/2019, 6:35:39 PM6 votes

One of the dozen reasons i never watch E-sports or streams.

3TWarrior5/12/2019, 7:59:38 PM5 votes

mainly because modern league is very superficial. It's not skill if you die to ANYTHING

there was a great video showing Zed vs Zed with Faker and it involved point blank jukes, split second timing and a coordination that was in no way premeditated

now people try to compare that to being invisible for a few seconds and getting lucky as you spam an abusable kit, or pressing a button and catching the opponent, instantly killing them

ChompyWulf5/13/2019, 3:12:43 PM4 votes

Several thoughts.

First, someone griped about the "Unkillable Demon King" nickname. Yes, it sounds a little silly, but when you have a completely insane highlight moment in a Korean final between the Telecom rivals where he completely outplayed the enemy midlaner, he damn well earned that and you can't just take it away. If you haven't seen the Faker Zed vs Ryu Zed, go find it. I'm not a fan of the nickname either, but you can't deny he earned it.

Second, he is the best LOL pro, period. Go back and look at who the other top Midlane players were in Season 3. Now see if any others are still playing or even on a top team. Part of what makes Faker special is how long he's been a top name, though numerous metas, having played and beaten the best using assassins, mages, caster supports, and tank supports, even taking an occasional Olaf mid to style on a poor IWC player. He's not invincible, but there hasn't yet been any other midlaner who comes close to his sustained success. Naturally at times because of all this, commentary will be focused on what he can do opposed to what an opponent does.

That said, a caster comment when Faker gets melted by a fed Draven like "Faker can't do anything because of the Bloodthirster" just as easily lets you know the other guy did well. I mean, do you need a caster to break down the axe catches by Draven? When the champ doesn't offer a skill outplay that can be broken down, and clearly can steamroll thanks to a sustain item, what else do you expect the caster to talk about?

Other follow up comments... Way to cherry pick Game 3 World's 2017 at 33 minutes. Too bad at that point Bang already threw, SSG got Baron easy as a result, and because of Ardent Censer meta and SKT'S ADC twice being a tard and feeding left Faker with no choice but to survive and lose or die and probably still lose but at least you tried something. This specific choice only shows hate for the player and absolutely zero context for the play you're criticizing.

And then talking about that G2 match where Kahn kept getting caught repeatedly and casters kept praising the Pyke, Jankos ganks with Jarvan, mentioning Caps roams....oh wait, they barely were talking about Faker that game. What's your beef?

Someone else already spoke on top laners and junglers for SKT. Frankly they should have ditched Blank long before because he was horribly inconsistent. Most players left SKT after getting a trophy hoping to be the star on a new team and get a payday. Look at Impact. Marin and Duke follow that mold. Peanut only wanted an international trophy. None of them have faulted Faker or casters, why should you?

Someone commenting on Rookie crushing Faker "like a bug." Let's be honest for a moment about that champ select...Irelia against Ryze in mid, and that pesky IG Camille jungler factor too...you want to make this about skill when clearly the draft wasn't meta picks from SKT?

I understand fatigue, but seriously this hate train is silly.

Bouncemaster Zac5/12/2019, 9:34:49 PM3 votes

Because he's "the best LoL player on Earth" (he isn't) and the spectacle of him holding that title brings in views when he plays.

ZaFishbone5/13/2019, 7:37:17 AM3 votes

Fanboy mentality. The same thing that had people swearing that TFBlade didn't say the N-word on stream, even tho he clearly said it. But ppl were insisting on convoluted theories to exonerate him, like, for example, that he said the first part of 'negative', then for some reason didn't say the second part. People's favorite star can do no wrong, every time something doesn't go his way, it's because of an outside factor beyond his control.

G Master Hung5/13/2019, 1:08:56 PM3 votes

Yea. Rookie crushed Faker like a bug, Faker isn't the best IMO anymore.

BigBellBrute5/14/2019, 6:54:59 PM1 votes

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it's always "that item makes him unable to do anything" instead of "X player is doing a great job at sustaining between bursts"?

But when faker does something, especially with a huge gold advantage, it's "OMG FAKER IS A GOD, YOU CAN'T STOP THIS GOD, JUST THE OUTPLAY OH MY GOD, CRUSHED".

casters suck up to him too much and neglect the other players who are doing good against him. I just find it funny.

You will find they do that with a lot of players. Just look at Aphromoo. There was a week where he literally made one play the whole time. And it was an easy play that even a bronze Ali could make. AAAAAAAPHROMOO WE LOVE YOU, AAAAAAAPHROMOO WE DOOOOOO..... Boom, he's on the Penta, and the Dive and This or that. Even in the finals, sure TSM's top laner had a great first two games, but after that not so much. And they were still gushing on him. Of course they always gush on TSM but even more so on their top laner.

HeeroTX5/12/2019, 8:21:31 PM1 votes

English language casters (and NA in particular) push "brand" over "skill", its part of the problem with the NA region as a whole. Its better for business to make note of doublelift (who has a ton of followers) rather than an unknown "up and coming" rookie. Faker is the Tom Brady of league, ie. the leader of a multi-year dynasty. Most guys won't be seen as a really big deal until they're basically past their prime. (which is not to say "not any good" but not necessarily the "best" anymore)

Dingding1235/12/2019, 11:33:33 PM1 votes

Aaand then they nerf whatever tactic Faker was using. Every time.

lasreveR5/13/2019, 6:58:55 AM1 votes

It is tough to see him get beat by guys like Caps and Rookie over and over again, but I think it's more a byproduct of the meta and shifting playstyle. Before where it used to be win lane, win game and Faker was just more mechanically dominant then everyone, he could focus on going aggro and carrying. But now since it's quicker paced and more team fight oriented, he's being forced to powerfarm for late game scaling and I've even seen SKT use him as zoning support for Clid and Khan.

I definitely think that the casters give him way more shine than everyone because of his image to the sport and they could definitely do a better job giving credit to the opposition, but I think they've done a fair job giving the other midlaners their shine too. You can't say the casters don't do their diligence analyzing Rookie, Caps or even Jensen in the games. The team I really feel sad for is Flashwolves, they're about to steal 4th from us and they hardly give them the coverage they deserve.

Cevrad5/13/2019, 11:02:49 AM1 votes

I'm not a rose colored glasses kind of guy. But holy crap has SKT as a whole been super disrespectful in this tournament. Maybe they learned nothing from sitting on the couch during Worlds last year watching all 3 Korean teams fall in the exact same manner. Early game is what it is about, why are they drafting for late game?

III BAKURYU III 5/13/2019, 12:29:08 PM1 votes

The thing is.............those players on SKT at this year's MSI isn't the real SKT members..........they're clones of such. The real SKT players will be back later as they're on vacation after winning LCK.
Faker and company will be back May 14th to take on IG in the World Final I mean MSI Final

DalekZec5/13/2019, 1:25:29 PM1 votes

I wonder if I beat Faker in a 1v1 there will be a huge angry mob outside my uni...

I kinda feel bad for faker. Too much expectation is put on him.

Wolvahulk5/13/2019, 7:00:34 PM1 votes

Umm what ? They do that to every single player, I hate how they overhype shit but its not only faker, I mean when Rookie was kinda beating him the casters where shouting their lungs out.

Ztoka5/13/2019, 10:57:39 PM1 votes

I've watched his stream once or twice before.. Despite him being a great player, his game play/spazzy clicking makes it very unappealing to watch.