The Nasus buffs actually feel pretty good
maw/steraks was just added to my item list
Thanks my man meddler.
maw/steraks was just added to my item list
Thanks my man meddler.
Hey HateDaddy, as our resident Nasus main, what are your thoughts on WorldBreaker Nasus?
Is he epic enough?
Hey HateDaddy, as our resident Nasus main, what are your thoughts on WorldBreaker Nasus?
Is he epic enough?
WorldBreaker?
Yeah, he's part of a new skin line coming to the PBE.
Here's his splash. He shares it with Hecarim.
Yeah, he's part of a new skin line coming to the PBE.
Here's his splash. He shares it with Hecarim.
that's fucking dope
explains his buffs tho :p
steraks triforce would be nice on him.
Yea, his new ult feels much much better than his old one. I love that buff.
maw/steraks was just added to my item list
Thanks my man meddler.
Maw? I haven't tried that....
Maw? I haven't tried that....
ya this has been my build actually
Heavy AP

Heavy AD:

And obviously a mixture of this vs more balanced teams
I'm really liking ohmwrecker right now.
i would never switch out merc treads on nasus
I would if the other team has no cc but slows XD. and not a lot of those. Also if all their cc is knockups, merc treads are worthless.
well that team deserves to lose by default. no cc. lol
Slows and knockups are cc, but either a) aren't important to nasus b/c he has a better slow (or buys
) and b) knockups aren't effected by tenacity...
I'll have to give that a go, lately after the patch i've been losing games, either i do well and the team falls behind or i'm not having a good match and still lose. Have you tried righteous glory on him? I've been taking in against team comps with fast escapes and it works well.
ya this has been my build actually
Heavy AP
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And obviously a mixture of this vs more balanced teams
I'm really liking ohmwrecker right now.
You're only NOW building Ohmwrecker?
I was building that crap for like 7 months until they randomly nerfed it, and triforce got changed so I could run 15% CDR level 1 still.
You're only NOW building Ohmwrecker?
I was building that crap for like 7 months until they randomly nerfed it, and triforce got changed so I could run 15% CDR level 1 still.
I was building IBG before the proc damage got nerfed, with CDR boots and SV because CDR boots only cost 800 gold earlier this season + the reduced Flash cooldown. Then they nerfed it and changed Trinity and I started building it and capping CDR pretty quickly and I realized ohmwrecker gives you an hP + armor + CDR route but the only downside is kindlegem CDR doesn't stack so you need to finish either SV or OW before.
But I'm especially attracted to it now because all my items save for maw give HP so the ability to stack more HP on Nasus with his resists from ult really ramps up his tankiness nicely.
I was building IBG before the proc damage got nerfed, with CDR boots and SV because CDR boots only cost 800 gold earlier this season + the reduced Flash cooldown. Then they nerfed it and changed Trinity and I started building it and capping CDR pretty quickly and I realized ohmwrecker gives you an hP + armor + CDR route but the only downside is kindlegem CDR doesn't stack so you need to finish either SV or OW before.
But I'm especially attracted to it now because all my items save for maw give HP so the ability to stack more HP on Nasus with his resists from ult really ramps up his tankiness nicely.
The only reason I stopped building Ohmwrecker was due to the Zz'rot meta, and that Ohm got nerfed. After that, I was debating going back to Ohmwrecker but the trinity force CDR change happened, and since I love running 15% CDR lvl 1, and don't like wasting CDR, I don't usually build Ohmwrecker now :(.
I'd have to change my runepage style if I wanted to start building it again, which I am not comfortable with doing.
The only reason I stopped building Ohmwrecker was due to the Zz'rot meta, and that Ohm got nerfed. After that, I was debating going back to Ohmwrecker but the trinity force CDR change happened, and since I love running 15% CDR lvl 1, and don't like wasting CDR, I don't usually build Ohmwrecker now :(.
I'd have to change my runepage style if I wanted to start building it again, which I am not comfortable with doing.
honestly I prefer scaling MR on him + scaling HP yellows. So I run armor quints to help with the early game. It gives me better trading power and honestly, starting 10-15% CDR early doesn't matter much if you can't Q anything. And even then, we're talking a difference of 50-100 stacks at the most with this and while that's a big deal early, as long as you're at 300 by 20 minutes with a sheen, you're a monster. I don't actually get super stacked that often because I brawl like a mother fucker once I get 150 + sheen.
honestly I prefer scaling MR on him + scaling HP yellows. So I run armor quints to help with the early game. It gives me better trading power and honestly, starting 10-15% CDR early doesn't matter much if you can't Q anything. And even then, we're talking a difference of 50-100 stacks at the most with this and while that's a big deal early, as long as you're at 300 by 20 minutes with a sheen, you're a monster. I don't actually get super stacked that often because I brawl like a mother fucker once I get 150 + sheen.
I brawl so much at that point as well, but I usually average around 450-500 stacks at 20 mins due to the CDR runes. It also depends on matchup, but the runes are also good on ARAM (ye ye ik u dont giveva crap about that part).
i'm trying to get a feel for nasus myself, can you tell me what your rune pages are? most of mine have i think 10-15% CDR on them, but i feel really, REALLY squishy early game
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i'm trying to get a feel for nasus myself, can you tell me what your rune pages are? most of mine have i think 10-15% CDR on them, but i feel really, REALLY squishy early game
Sure
I am not a fan of heavy CDR rune pages, I prefer a mixture of scaling + Flat runes to help me both with early game and mid game spikes. But there's nothing wrong with the CDR pages, I just prefer a beefier setup because I like to skirmish a lot on Nasus.
My standard rune page in most match ups is as follows:
Flat AD damage reds - makes last hitting quite a bit easier Scaling HP yellows Flat armor quints Scaling MR blues (they break even with flat MR around level 6-7 and with your passive + corruption potion, you can survive most lanes)
In lanes where I know I'm going to be under tower all game, I actually run lifesteal quints because in all probability, armor quints won't help much if I'm constantly pushed in. So the additional lifesteal is a nice boost.
Some people go balls out and run CDR quints but again, this doesn't fit my playstyle so I don't do it. Flirt around with things and see what you enjoy the most because runes are really going to depend on how you like to play.
For masteries I run 12/0/18 and pick up Grasp. I don't take stormraiders on him because it's win-more. If I'm in a position to do 30% of someone's max HP, chances they're dead no matter what. I can't stress this enough, nasus's problem isn't sticking to a target, it's getting there in the first place. And StormRaiders doesn't help you with that - unless you're a fucking man and go 1000 AP Nasus.
thanks, I liked to do a little bit of Grasp trading in lane vs certain lanes but the CDR pages made me feel less able to do it well
what should I do vs hard lanes? i'm having a lot of trouble vs ryze in particular
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thanks, I liked to do a little bit of Grasp trading in lane vs certain lanes but the CDR pages made me feel less able to do it well
what should I do vs hard lanes? i'm having a lot of trouble vs ryze in particular
Start corruption potions, don't eat Qs and don't stay in the middle of your minion wave or his e + thunderbirds will give you a lot of trouble. Once you complete SV + mercs + Sheen, he's a walking +6
I don't consider new Ryze that hard of a lane
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i'm trying to get a feel for nasus myself, can you tell me what your rune pages are? most of mine have i think 10-15% CDR on them, but i feel really, REALLY squishy early game
I run a mix of scaling health yellows and flat armor yellows, (or flat ap resist yellows) and either 2 armor quints or 2 mr quints. Depending on the match-up. I still get up to 10% starting CDR among the blues and the one quint.
I looked at your rune page and you probably shouldn't have the lifesteal quints in if you feel squishy. I think carnarius has 3 lifesteal quints in his pages, but I believe he runs armor reds.
Your "nasus ad page" is pretty similar to what I have. The rune pages I think are personal preference for a Nasus main. If you think you can dodge and sustain the lifesteal is good, but if you are concerned of an early death run a full tank page. I run 4 attack speed reds because there were some instances where I would have to farm under tower at level 1 or 2 because I will get zoned so hard.
I think the flat CDR early is better than the scaling CDR because the first 10 minutes is when you get the most time to farm.
You should go to naopgg and look up some of the nasus mains page and see what they run.
Quazadilic http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Quazadilic is probably the best Nasus main on the N/A who plays ranked regularly with him. Carnarius is probably the best in the world with the champion.
I am right now running
and my last item just depends on what is needed. Usually it is
or 
I think with preseason and some items prices changing I think he is going to be indirectly buffed as well.
I don't even miss the additional AD, the resistances keep me alive and that's really important. I can actually team fight now.
What mastery set do you take?
What mastery set do you take?
12/0/18
Granted I haven't read up on Preseason PBE so I suspect this will change
The noobstomper got more noob friendly.
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The noobstomper got more noob friendly.
shrugs
Still, lategame you barely see the difference when their team has
and
. You still get melted lightning fast.
Idk I didn't feel that way earlier today against a team with a fed Brand/Rumble
Idk I didn't feel that way earlier today against a team with a fed Brand/Rumble
I did feel that, but the problem was a fed Cait, and the other game a fed Ezreal. I was also fed af with a typical tank Nasus (
, stormraider's, 45% cdr), but they had so much ridiculous amounts of damage they could nearly 1v1 me. And yay those million traps CCing me for ages, activating nearly instantly. balanced.
AP's actually yeah are manageable but AD carries have way too much damage even against 400+ armor, it's stupid.
I did feel that, but the problem was a fed Cait, and the other game a fed Ezreal. I was also fed af with a typical tank Nasus (
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, stormraider's, 45% cdr), but they had so much ridiculous amounts of damage they could nearly 1v1 me. And yay those million traps CCing me for ages, activating nearly instantly. balanced.
AP's actually yeah are manageable but AD carries have way too much damage even against 400+ armor, it's stupid.
You need way more HP in your build than that
You need way more HP in your build than that
Well, lategame I got 3091 HP ; 3691 HP under ult. It's still a big amount and abnormal I get melted so fast.
need to get back to 40%, it's ridiculous.
No they don't because they apply to bonus armor.
You're not going to be able to tank a 6 item ADC as anyone unless you're Malphite or Rammus
What are you gonna do when maw gets 10% cd?
senpai rate treeneetee force on susan thxs
you guys are all nuts. this was a nerf to nasus. the offensive stats were better than these defensive stats. gl trying to duo baron EVER, gl trying to do dragon without it taking a whole minute, gl turning and fighting. this literally just turned nasus into a bitch
You can get infinite stacking on your Q, a horrific crippling movement & attack speed slow on your W which makes even Xin Zhao or Vayne crawling on their knees, an E which reduces everyone's armor in the circle, and an AoE Sunfire on your ult. At what point is there to even need anymore offensive stats such as the damage to AD in your ult?
qss-useless nasus w e-does like nothing without rylais the offensive stats were there so you didn't have to build any damage on nasus- no he's just a tank without that power spike as a threat. that threat was a boost in ad, lifesteal essentially, pushing power. now that fighter feel for nasus is completely gone and it will all just come down to brass $ accumulated for nasus to be buff enough to fight. basically, this nerf took out the fun part of dueling. like revert it, this whole change besides the range. your point would still be solid, but my point has validity.
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qss-useless nasus w e-does like nothing without rylais the offensive stats were there so you didn't have to build any damage on nasus- no he's just a tank without that power spike as a threat. that threat was a boost in ad, lifesteal essentially, pushing power. now that fighter feel for nasus is completely gone and it will all just come down to brass $ accumulated for nasus to be buff enough to fight. basically, this nerf took out the fun part of dueling. like revert it, this whole change besides the range. your point would still be solid, but my point has validity.
You never realistically got to use that damage in any meaningful way. If you were in the middle of a team, which is what you'd need to ramp up your AD, you'd be beating on the front line at best. Good job, you're hitting the enemy tank for 300 damage every 2 seconds. In that scenario, you're going to be out tanked with no true defensive steorid.
The bonus ad he received only mattered in fringe cases and his e shredding 40 flat armor is actually a big deal. You delete squishies with E/Q.
It has made his teamfight significantly better and I promise you his winrate will jump at least 2-3% when patch data comes out.