you overnerfed ashe and now your bot lane needs work

Woook3r··1 votes·367 views

I know you have your "design principles" and all, but nerfing ash's dps was not the greatest idea. You should have nerfed her w.

The reason I say that is, not only is the w untradable harass at times, it also adds greatly to her burst dmg because of the animation cancel. AA, W, AA, Q, AA is a lot of dmg especially if she has some fervor going already. And thats the real reason she could dominate so hard. I was playing her before you nerfed fervor procs and she was 100% broken. Its the only time in memory I felt like it didnt matter if my support was crap. She was a really gentle lane bully herself. Fervor boosted her mid game, + her picks & self defense with the arrow. Then she scaled like crazy. Good times.

Seems like you forgot that is what keeps her on par with lane bullies. The beginning of the rework was dominated by the lane bullies and you havnt really touched them. You just buffed other champions. So as soon as you would have nerfed her w, she would have started "losing" lane or at least giving the early adc's some breathing room. Oh. I almost forgot. People who max w in lane dont have to miss farm very often. Thats another reason she was on top.

Now we have jinx, because if you pick an immobile adc, they better be able to actually dps. And jinx is almost like ashe was, except its more about her dmg when she gets passive, and less about picks and utility. JInx doesnt feel good to me right now. It just feels like she is just able to do oppressive dmg when she is getting carried. Thats all. Id much rather have some or all of the ashe q nerf reverted, see a respectable nerf on her w, and feel like I was actually carrying games again.

Speaking of lane bullies in bot lane which are really popular right now. Why is draven still such a shitter? Its almost like he doesnt have a niche! WOW!

Also, Miss Fortune q doing 50% of my supports hp is bogus. Its actually funny. Because you would think mf and her support would be ready to follow that dmg up every time. But they arent. Know why? Cause no one is ready for that dmg to come out. Not even MF cause you never know when its going to hit. Ty.

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Narvuntien1 votes

I do think they overnerfed Ashe, it really shouldn't take much to get her back to a good state a small tweak in numbers.

As for complaining about others, Jinx is basically worse Caitlyn as far as I can tell, I am not quite sure how to buff her.

MF is an AD caster, I think the upcoming changes to Yommus and armor pen we will see a change in how she is played/built. for example losing the attack speed on Yommus will make it much harder for MF to take towers even if nothing else changes.

Woook3r1 votes

I know. She felt like a really healthy champion to me. I felt like I knew what I was doing to carry with her in my elo and could reliably do so. If ashe was too strong, its because maybe she was a tiny bit op, but mostly because other adc's were too weak. Much as lucian was pre-nerf, imo.

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