Stupid fing Riot match making

SnugglePuggle94··4 votes·515 views

Fuck your stupid system. Just got demoted thanks to your fucking ass system. I just got promoted into s4 like last week. I do good, get a couple wins, then BAM. 5 FUCKING GAME LOSING STREAK and demotion. FUCK YOU.

Get your fucking shitty system out of here and replace it with an actual GOOD system that doesn't DO SHIT LIKE THIS. FUCK YOU RIOT!

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Eleana4 votes

The common factor between all your games is you. For the vast majority of lower ranking games, you can win if you play well enough.

SnugglePuggle941 votes

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The common factor between all your games is you. For the vast majority of lower ranking games, you can win if you play well enough.

Doesn't happen all the time. I can give you one of my recent games- I was Lux mid and carrying the shit out of my team. But my bot lane, together, was 0-18 by if I remember the 25 min mark, which the support was flaming and going off without us, and other crazy crap. I tried the best I could there but it was unwinnable. So not all games are able to be won if you play "well enough."

Eleana1 votes

Did I say every single game was winnable? No. I said the vast MAJORITY is. And that's because it is. Challenger smurfs will rarely lose games in low elo and that's because they are good.

Now, granted, you won't be playing at a challenger level but the fact they win so frequently proves that individual skill can make a large difference. So, just work on yourself as there guaranteed a TON of mistakes you are making that you don't even notice.

SnugglePuggle941 votes

Challenger is way off from Silver so don't even use that.

And no there's nothing I need to work on. I keep getting shitty ass teammates. In my past (now 6) losses of ranked games, I have gone for a total score of 25-19. Meanwhile I am getting junglers who go 3-11, and bot lane combos that go for 0-20 combined (in just gone game). Another I think was even worse.

So cut the crap about "me" getting better. It's not me in these games. It's Riot's stupid match making system and crappy teammates who need to go back to normals and learn how to fucking play.

Eleana2 votes

Riot matches you with players who have similar MMR. So either you've messed up your MMR terribly from previous large losing streaks or you are as bad as them and are blind to your mistakes. It's most likely the latter.

Try reviewing your games with someone as least a tier above you (so if you are silver, try to get advice from a gold+). If you are jungling, perhaps your jungle/ganking path is inefficient or you are not noticing which ganks are worth your time and which ganks aren't.

If you're a non-support laner, CS is the easiest thing to work on considering it's large, large impact on the game. By 10 minutes, if you have 100 CS, that's absolutely great. However, it's okay to have less if you're being overly bullied in lane/getting constantly ganked. Still, should have around 80 CS. Remember to keep farming after laning phase ends. Try to have 80-100 CS per 10 minutes of your entire game length. For example, if your game is 35 minutes long, you should ideally have 280-350 CS.

If you're a support, work on getting safe vision for your ADC/team. Know when you can trade in lane, when you can engage, who you should focus/target, when to disengage, etc. Positioning is super important, especially if you play a squishier support (Lulu, Soraka, etc.).

Make sure to look up builds for your champions frequently as things can change drastically between patches. For example, in your last ranked Sona game, where is your Ardent Censer? In your last Nami game, while it is feasible to build Rylais on Nami why exactly did you build it in this game? Locket of the Iron Solari would have been a much better item that game as you were versing a heavy burst comp.

Also, for the most part unless you DESPERATELY want the ability power from the Spelltheif's line, just build Coin. It gets you more money, easier. For the majority of Ardent Censer supports, Coin is usually the best option as it allows you to get it faster.

Final note looking through your Ranked games is that you seem to die quite frequently. While it may be unavoidable to die a lot in some games as you're just being smashed, this is still something that can be worked on. If you are playing an Ardent/Heal/Shield support, try to keep your deaths under 2-3.

There are a ton of things you can work on, I'm not even scratching the surface as all I can do is look through your KDA, damage, build path, etc. on op.gg.

SnugglePuggle941 votes

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Riot matches you with players who have similar MMR. So either you've messed up your MMR terribly from previous large losing streaks or you are as bad as them and are blind to your mistakes. It's most likely the latter.

Try reviewing your games with someone as least a tier above you (so if you are silver, try to get advice from a gold+). If you are jungling, perhaps your jungle/ganking path is inefficient or you are not noticing which ganks are worth your time and which ganks aren't.

If you're a non-support laner, CS is the easiest thing to work on considering it's large, large impact on the game. By 10 minutes, if you have 100 CS, that's absolutely great. However, it's okay to have less if you're being overly bullied in lane/getting constantly ganked. Still, should have around 80 CS. Remember to keep farming after laning phase ends. Try to have 80-100 CS per 10 minutes of your entire game length. For example, if your game is 35 minutes long, you should ideally have 280-350 CS.

If you're a support, work on getting safe vision for your ADC/team. Know when you can trade in lane, when you can engage, who you should focus/target, when to disengage, etc. Positioning is super important, especially if you play a squishier support (Lulu, Soraka, etc.).

Make sure to look up builds for your champions frequently as things can change drastically between patches. For example, in your last ranked Sona game, where is your Ardent Censer? In your last Nami game, while it is feasible to build Rylais on Nami why exactly did you build it in this game? Locket of the Iron Solari would have been a much better item that game as you were versing a heavy burst comp.

Also, for the most part unless you DESPERATELY want the ability power from the Spelltheif's line, just build Coin. It gets you more money, easier. For the majority of Ardent Censer supports, Coin is usually the best option as it allows you to get it faster.

Final note looking through your Ranked games is that you seem to die quite frequently. While it may be unavoidable to die a lot in some games as you're just being smashed, this is still something that can be worked on. If you are playing an Ardent/Heal/Shield support, try to keep your deaths under 2-3.

There are a ton of things you can work on, I'm not even scratching the surface as all I can do is look through your KDA, damage, build path, etc. on op.gg.

I've had many awful losing streaks so that's why my MMR is messed up. I am nowhere near as bad as the teammates I have been getting lately.

I don't have any gold people to review it with.

I usually stick to support but I do branch out sometimes. Awhile ago when I was climbing back into s4, I was doing pretty decent with Lux. Anyhow, my last Sona game I was going to get Ardent Censer. I opted for Redemption because people were dying left and right first, and I always get at least one damage item on her. And as for Nami, I tend to get Rylai's depending on the game and how it goes. Since that was the game our top laner stupidly decided to take a Lucian top against Riven, of all people, and we literally had no CC besides me, I opted for it. I don't think it would have mattered if I had gotten Locket there, since the rest of the team besides Ziggs were playing so god awful.

I always keep up with builds and change things depending on the patches and how my games go. But if I'm playing an AP support like Sona, Nami, Zyra (to me she's more of a mid lane mage though), etc then I go for Spellthiefs. Only ones I get coin are on Raka and Janna.

I know how to ward, position, all that crap. I don't need those tips. There's a reason why I'm a better support than my boyfriend, and it's because I know how to play it a lot better than most people.

And no, I do not die a lot. Besides my last three games, which were complete shit stomps, I keep my deaths low.

Like I told you how many times already, the problem is not me. It's shitty teammates and Riot's stupid matchmaking system.

Eleana1 votes

Like I'm sorry to sound rude but the reason you are losing so frequently is because you are playing just like all those 'bad players' on your team. Your team isn't holding you back. There's no such thing as 'ELO Hell'. If you are good enough, you will climb if you play enough games.

If you had the knowledge and mechanics of a Platinum player, you could easily get yourself out of Silver, regardless of teammates. You will stay silver until you change your bad habits and work on your gameplay. It's not Riot, it's you.

Also, Coin is without a doubt better on most supports that rush Ardent as it literally gives you more money and is safer overall. Sona is the only one where I could think of going Spellthief's because she is the most selfish Healer/Shield support.

SnugglePuggle941 votes

Nope. It's not me. I am no where near as bad as them so stop being mean. Yes it is my teams. If you were in the games with me you would have seen how bad these were and look at me, and see that yes, it's them. So shut up about it.

I climbed out of Bronze 5 to get into Silver. I am able to climb but Riot still punishes us after getting a winning streak going. And their matchmaking system is broken. Do you see all the posts lately? I have! Tons of people are posting about how they are getting 2-3 tiers of divisions of players below them, or getting unranked people in their placements games while they are in their promos.

Yes, there is ELO hell, and you are quite stupid to think otherwise.

It is Riot, pure and simple.

And no. Just no. You are definitely stupid to say Coin is better for almost all the supports. Go look at Mobafire, or other build sites on the support champions. Just about all of them use Spellthief on AP supports besides Janna and Raka.

Sona takes spellthiefs not only for the AP and mana regen, but for the damage it adds to her passive. Anyone who takes coin on her is not only diminishing her damage output and mana, but also is downright stupid.

Eleana1 votes

Coin offers quite a lot of mana while still gives a lot more gold. 10 minutes into the game, I had 100-200 more gold with Coin versus the Spelltheif's the enemy support had. Over 50% of people who play Nami go Coin including the highest ranked Nami mains. Here's a Diamond 1 Nami main for a example: https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=namifishhentai.

The fact that you so adamantly believe you should only go coin on Soraka and Janna says something about your knowledge of the game. As I said, Sona is the only healer/shield support where it is fine to go the Spelltheif's line.

Get good at the game and you will climb. End of story.

SnugglePuggle941 votes

I apparently know way more than you do and you are downright stupid. Soraka and Janna are the only ones that should go Coin. And who cares about if you got more gold with it. You should be able to make it up in using the gold with the spellthief passive, along with the more damage you get for the damage supports (ie sona, zyra, morg) the more kills/assists you get you should be right along with it.

How rude of you. I am good. Again, Riot messes people up with their shitty ass match making. End of story.

Done talking about this. You are so wrong I want to facepalm. This isn't going anywhere either.

Eleana1 votes

I see why OP.GG says you have Bronze MMR.

SnugglePuggle941 votes

Not because of me.

Good bye.

Nahui2 votes

You are the rank of deserve to be. It's easy to look at every lost game and blame something but yourself. But realistically you were part of the problem. Gank and roam more, look at the minimap and ping more, etc.

You may not have been the largest losing factor but you certainly could have been.

Remember that people hit diamond+ all the time. Somehow the system works for them. No such thing as ELO hell.

SnugglePuggle941 votes

So wrong. I was not part of the problem and I am nowhere near the rank I deserve to be.

And yes, there is ELO hell. Go look through the boards and you will see it.

Kevin7111 votes

try urf it's fun

Executioner

You should of been here for the ELO system, along with communicating with your team what lane you wanted. Now that system I actually didn't mind that much.

Also their is no good system. Everyone must win and lose in a multiplayer game.

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