Would rushing Titanic Hydra on most melees top be a great first buy?

Pyrithegethon··1 votes·950 views

item 3748 rushed on champs such as Aatrox Darius DrMundo Chogath Illaoi Jax Irelia Kled Renekton Olaf Poppy Trundle Shen TahmKench Yorick Volibear

Not only would it make them tanky, but it would give them a lot of damage, dueling power, and wave clear in lane. The auto attack reset makes it especially good on champions that can already reset their autos.

I know for some of these champs you might want to rush either item 3078 or item 3071 but titanic seems to be a way better first item for the laning phase with its high damage. I need to do more testing to confirm this though.

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Tormentula2 votes

Eh, the issue with rushing item 3748 is that it's damage scales with HP, so building it first actually means it is not doing much damage at all. In other words you get significantly more benefit from Tri or cleaver in early stats+damage+their passives in general (movement+armor shread / sheen+movement) .

Also wave management is very important early and having something that constantly pushes takes wave management slightly out of your control (you're forcing to shove than to freeze)

If you want to rush a tiamet item, item 3074 is significantly better since it offers sustain for better trades, and more raw damage.

As for champions themselves, the item doesn't work well with them because there are simply so many better options. Darius Illaoi Renekton benefit massively from the cleaver rush shredding armor (making their abilities and autos do more rather than just tiamet autos and active) and it helps them stick to their target better.

item 3078 on Jax Camille Irelia is just way too good since they do on-hit damage with some of their abilities ( sheen, which is a huge powerspike, buffs their ability damage and their autos in between their other abilities).

TahmKench Volibear I can't speak for because they're not even meta to begin with

Yorick from what I seen never builds a tiamet item regularly but one of my diamond one trick yorick friends doesn't infact build item 3074 over item 3748 after trinity.

Overall, titanic is a good item mid game when you have the HP to back it up, wave management becomes less important and you're trying to get moving or splitpush, but if you're doing a tiamet rush build on anything, ravenous all the way for the lifesteal, or just sit on the tiamet until you finish your first item, then upgrade the tiamet into a titanic (what Warwicks do).

Sp33d Zer01 votes

No. Hydra is best following cleaver.

Dreadlocks1 votes

Some of those champs yeah its fine.. But champs like irelia/Darius really do better with trinity/bc first given how good they synergize with their kits.

rework trundle1 votes

For Trundle I often sit on a Tiamat until I finish it as my 5th or 6th item. Tabi, Tiamat, Triforce, and you have an unkillable splitpushing and duelist monster.

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