Yet they love nerfing others who honestly do not need one, or have had so many recently that know one knows where they stand right now.
Seriously, can the 5 champions who are impossible to shut down completely get some nerfs, or at least some rebalancing? They should not be able to go 0-7 in the first 20 minutes and still finish the game positive in kills and with a penta, just because of their loaded kits / true damage.
chipndip13 votesWhy is Yi here?
JavelinJoe1 votesWhile not op in higher elo, he is super op in lower because he can snowball off of just minimal mistakes that most low elo players do not even know they are making. But he might needs more of a rework than a nerf
chipndip11 votesWho cares about low elo in that regard? "If you're bad, he's fucking broken."
Not trying to be a jerk but that doesn't really make a solid argument for what's actually strong or not.
JavelinJoe1 votesTrue, but my point is more that he is broken from mistakes that low elo players do not even know they made. But also, having his ult fully reset its timer on every kill and assist is pretty strong. But as I also said, I think he needs more of a rework than a nerf.
Lauchmelder1 votesI would have asked myself the same question. But then my botlane lost against a Pantheon+Yi botlane and fed him. How?
Ark Sorcerer1 votesSeriously, can the 5 champions who are impossible to shut down completely get some nerfs, or at least some rebalancing? They should not be able to go 0-7 in the first 20 minutes and still finish the game positive in kills and with a penta, just because of their loaded kits / true damage.
Wait, I thought that was Vayne but she is not on your list.
JavelinJoe1 votesVayne is still able to be shut down for the game to an extent. While true it has gotten much harder, she still can be because she is AA reliant and has a weak early game. Usually she needs 2-3 offensive items to get to the point any of the champions I listed can be at with 1-2 offensive items.
Ark Sorcerer1 votesYou know, what is funny is that I was in a game against a Vayne. Her laning phase was meh, I was able to feed my marksmen (I was support) from the enemy support but not give Vayne a hard time. Interesting enough, she became the sole champion on the enemy team to get in the double digits, and in the 20s no less. Lost that game because of her.
Nahui1 votesLucian they do nerf pretty well, if you remember the last time he was strong, they gutted the shit out of him and made him one of the worst.
Master Yi is hard to balance. He sucks in higher elo, but he abuses poor decision making and mechanics in low elo.
Lee Sin will never be actually nerfed. He's too iconic in the community, and in higher elo, he's relatively balanced. He's always top tier, but his kit is never super oppressive. One day maybe.
Yasuo's kit is overloaded and needs an overhaul. No numbers balance will fix him. Either he's fucking your team up or he'll be shit
Darius is an odd champion to balance. Tanky, lane dominant, but he doesn't go around and break the game as many other OPs do. But, he could do with a nerf. Hopefully soon.
JavelinJoe1 votesLucian they do nerf pretty well, if you remember the last time he was strong, they gutted the shit out of him and made him one of the worst.
I think that was more due to the meta changes when lethality came out than any nerf they gave him. His last nerf was back in 6.11 also, and since then he has had a few buffs, one directly and another through QoL. Most of his changes recently have been bug fixes too.
Nahui1 votesThe nerf I think I'm talking about was when they reduced his Q's max reach, which hit his laning phase hard on top of lethality coming to bear.
JavelinJoe1 votesI remember that, but then they buffed it at the start of this season.
meowwow71 voteslucian you just have to survive early-mid game to make him weaker, yi lacks wave clear early game for the type of jungler he is, lee isn't mobile unless he sets up a ton of wards around the map so take a sweeper around and destroy wards around the map to make him more bound yas needs an enemy unit to dash and to actually be around a knock up before he ults and darius's sustain is weakened if you close in on him but these are just tips to dealing with them
JavelinJoe1 voteslucian you just have to survive early-mid game to make him weaker
Teach me how you do this and how it is effective. From all of my games vs him he either easily win the lane or out farms you / harasses you to the point where he just snowballs anyways. And even if you do manage to get a small early lead, he just buys 
and then wins every trade with his passive.
meowwow71 voteslike for instance staying atleast a flash away from minions when farming so that way he can't easily e onto you or poke you with q or w
JavelinJoe1 votesSo basically FF the early game, by playing overly safe and letting him dictate when you can farm?
meowwow71 votesmost adc's auto ranges are usually more than a flash range though
JavelinJoe1 votesTrue, but most ADCs do not have an instant dash to follow that flash up with, besides Ezreal, 
, and Caitlyn. 
does have the mobility, but it is a bit tricky to use very quickly and still keep fighting because of the speed change the farther you travel.
Salron1 votes"refuse to nerf" Yeah that's why Darius got a nerf not too long ago and Lee is slated for nerfs on the PBE Also had a Red post about looking into Lucian nerfs around 4 days ago same
JavelinJoe1 votesWell finally they get the message if those nerfs go through. But Lee has been asking for a nerf for such a long time now and Lucian has always been the strongest (uncontested) when the meta is not directly pulling away from him like during the Lethality meta.
Salron1 votesOnce bork gets nerfed more + more changes to make crit ads more desirable, Lucian should drop in strength from that alone, because currently he is abusing that insane 1 item powerspike to snowball the game while other ADCs take longer to come online at around 2-3 items
Seriously though, his first 2 items he typically builds need nerfs 
JavelinJoe1 votesagreed that the two items are too powerful, but his high win rate of early trades because simply his passive gives him so much extra damage and sustain.
Critmaster Garen1 votesthere is no need to nerf darius.
he already took a hit with this patch too. yi is weak, except in lower divisions. yasuo got buffed this patch, but theyll probably look into him.
lee has nerfs on the pbe. lucian needs to get hit. but only because hes STILL using cleaver.
Big Lincoln1 votesbuff all the juggernauts tbh
Critmaster Garen1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cNTQqhk4,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-05-12T04:10:19.264+0000)
buff all the juggernauts tbh
yea, almost all of them dropped below 50% wr with the tank update.
Vapor Wave Vibes1 votesThe only champs there that should be nerfed is Lucian and lee. Lucian has a unhealthy build path that lets him fight assassins and I think lee base movement speed is too fast.