Remember when Hashinshin said mages were bad this season?

Nhika··5 votes·1,361 views

AP junglers suck. AP mid laners suck. ADC's and everything else is so strong that they just side step and right click you and you die lol. Meanwhile your luden's will tickle them as their support just heals or their lifesteal just regens them to full health.

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Anime Fizz5 votes

What? Hashinshin has been saying that mages are broken as fuck for the last 2 years, and they indeed are, as mage itemization is the best in the game (items like hourglass/stopwatch, ludens, voidstaff are all broken as fk).

Mordepool4 votes

Funny since their AP values have dropped significantly over the years.

Salron5 votes

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Funny since their AP values have dropped significantly over the years.

And their average CDR values have conversely gone up as well along with new means of damage such as Liandry's burn being added for some of them

D357R0Y3R4 votes

and their mana cost all dropped

remember when ori ult used to cost 300 mana?

good old times

Malix Farwin4 votes

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and their mana cost all dropped

remember when ori ult used to cost 300 mana?

good old times

Conveniently ignoring the the fact that mana regen got hit as well so the reduction of mana cost is a meaningless point to bring up.

D357R0Y3R3 votes

No, mana regen did not get hit what got hit was mana last season but mages got more base mana

mana regen got removed from items so mages could straight go for offensive items instead

ZT Xperimentor2 votes

Look at the class reworks, mages lost a lot of mana regeneration, and maximum mana in more recent years.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes
D357R0Y3R2 votes

I said, IT DIDNT MATTER WITH THE CLASS REWORK because they were able to rush offensive items instead of wasting gold on mana and mana regen

and since the mana costs were reduced over the past, it ended up being a pure buff

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

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https://i.gyazo.com/265e632f9b5f71afe4c7ee54649f30aa.png

nice lie

Didn't see anything of the sort there; and no it's not a buff, just a reversal of a nerf to be back to square one, which not everyone benefited from equally in the first place.

Mordepool2 votes

Well considering dot mages didn't get a keystone. I am not surprised they gave them something.

Malix Farwin3 votes

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And their average CDR values have conversely gone up as well along with new means of damage such as Liandry's burn being added for some of them

And their item diversity has taken a nose dive. Mages have done nothing but lose building options. Can no longer build item 3026 or item 3001 for defensive yet AD has several options for defense without losing dmg. Mages? we got item 3102 and item 3157 , thats it, build any hard defense item then we hit like a wet noodle.

Malix Farwin3 votes

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What? Hashinshin has been saying that mages are broken as fuck for the last 2 years, and they indeed are, as mage itemization is the best in the game (items like hourglass/stopwatch, ludens, voidstaff are all broken as fk).

Are you high? Mage itemization is terrible.

DuskDaUmbreon4 votes

Why would you listen to what Hashishint says anyways? Everything he loses to is broken, or it's his jungler's fault, or it's his botlane's fault, or it's his mid's fault.

It doesn't matter what he says because he's nearly universally wrong, and even when he's right his suggestions end up being shit anyways. Dude has strategy worse than most of bronze III, has the decision making of a deer staring into headlights, and is tilted easier than any Yasuo, Riven, or Shaco I've ever seen.

Super Galaxy1 votes

AP items? Damn, that's a good meme.

Eedat1 votes

When has hashinshin said mages were anything but cancer?

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