I feel sorry for mage-support mains

Divewing··4 votes·596 views

Cause mid-lane-meta-sheep are going to get FQC nerfed...

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Princess Emma2 votes

I just like the 150% mana regeneration it gives at such a low cost.

The active is a god send in Twisted Treeline though for vision control, I wish the Frost Queen's Claim we have now was in Twisted Treeline when I was doing ranked along with {{summoner:2}}

Kitten of Evil2 votes

I just like the 150% mana regeneration it gives at such a low cost.

I would almost take it for this stat alone. The CDR, AP, GP5, and active are just gravy.

Jbels2 votes

They never should have gotten rid of twin shadows. They should have made it worth taking. Now that they tacked on it's active to an item that was already worth a slot in some cases, you can replace "some" with "all".

I feel like this has to do with the fact that Twin Shadows had a bad public image. When you think about it, it was actually a pretty decent cheap self-peel item. It gave 80 AP, 10% CDR, and it even gave Movement speed. That's a pretty decent item by itself, but other items just felt more important to have than it, so it got side-lined.

NOW You've put an ok active on an item that is even cheaper than that, gives a big chunk of mana regen (always appreciated now that mana pots are gone) 50 AP (not good but definitely not bad) and gold generation (Every proc of the gold passive counts, and it will really add up). Not only that, but the active itself has had it's base cooldown cut in half in exchange for not having the gimmicky cooldown reduction aspect of the ghosts.

DeathBurst1 votes

It's the second thread about that, and I've actually never seen it in-game. I'm from EUW, is this a server-specific meta? Or only at higher ELO, since I'm in Silver?

Divewing1 votes

I dunno. I see everyone going on about TLords, but in my games I'm almost the only one using it, people still seem overhyped on DFT. That said, both are big things right now (i'm pretty sure). FQC 4 second slow is just too good, especially for skillshot/set-up mages a la Lux, Syndra etc. Even ones like Ekko and Ahri get sweet use out of it cos it lets them make important picks.

Not to mention 4 second slow is some pretty OK self peel

DeathBurst1 votes

Yeah, sure, but Twin Shadows wasn't used much before, and it had better AP and as much CDR. How can FQC compare with Athene's or Morello, who have better mana regen, double the CDR and more AP?

I find all this a bit disturbing...

Dominick Destine1 votes

Twin Shadows had zero mana regen.

Beldair1 votes

Funny thing is, I never use FQC as a mage support. I go Eye of the Watch for the wards.

And that's with me being a support mage (which is usually Karma, Syndra, Lulu, Morgana, Janna, Bard, Zilean , or Lux)

Big Lincoln1 votes

i'm fine with this

a 4 second slow that grants true sight is ridiculous

Dreamspitter1 votes

I've been building it every game now.

Renascent1 votes

There's your nerf, folks.

FQC/Eye of the Watchers - Killing a minion disables the passive for 12 seconds.

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/12/1214-pbe-update.html

Dominick Destine1 votes

I find that the nerf is reasonable.

Though I sure wish they'd fix the glitch where both ghosts instantly hit the same enemy champion, wasting half of the active.

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