Kai'Sa's Nerf might be too heavy

JavelinJoe··2 votes·1,155 views

I get the idea behind the nerf was to eliminate her as a tank killer when building AP. That is understandable since she already has good damage vs squishy targets in the late game plus a lot of defensive tools to use (items included). However, there is a significant issue here which could make her unplayable, or at least lack a reason to play her over any other marksmen. That is her build and its relation to her abilities.

She has a lot of options build wise. This is because she has 3 of 5 abilities scale both AD and AP. However, when it comes to her damage, AP is currently by far better, having 4/5 abilities scale with it. Of her 3 damage abilities, 2 deal magic damage. And the third one which deals physical damage scales a higher percentage with AP. Her kit rewards her far more for building AP than AD.

Item wise, she will have a very expensive build, however she builds. Because she needs a few items to get her upgraded abilities, her strength comes later than most ADCs. Building AP helped this out a bit because it was a cheaper build path than building AD. She is not a normal marksmen like a Jinx, Ashe, or Tristana where your damage is 80% in your AA with one ability which has hard CC. However she would become one if forced to build AD. Thing is, why play her as a full AD, AA marksmen when others do that already and better than she can? You play her for her burst. A bad early game for a strong late. becoming an assassin for squishy targets after 3-4 items. You will not get this with her kit building AD.

Building AD to be a tank killer is a stupid reason to play Kai'Sa. Play Vayne if you want that, she deals % health true damage 2 AA before Kai'Sa gets her % health "burst". Kai'Sa building AD to be a tank shredder simply becomes a worse Vayne. Vayne does everything AD Kai'Sa can do and does it better. She has more frequent invisibility and mobility, and % health damage quicker in the 1v1. Not to mention her base stats are better too.

If you want to bring AD Kai'Sa back into play, then she will need more AD scalings somewhere within her kit, or increase her already existing ones to compensate.

7 Comments

Poop Jelly3 votes

I'm sorry if you're a kaisa main but I'm down with the nerf on PBE. She's such a solid pick for basically any situation and once you pick up an item or two and off Kaisa goes. With such high damage potential as rewards, she needs to take more risks.

And honestly, I can use a break from seeing Kai'sa Kai'sa Kai'sa Kai'sa everywhere.

JavelinJoe1 votes

I cant say that I main her. However, she is fun to play. I just think that how they are nerfing her will cause too many issues with "unintended nerfs". She will become weaker without a proper build path. AD is too expensive for what she gets from it. AP now will be to weak for what she needs it to be.

I think simply making her passive deal physical damage instead of magic damage would be enough for the tank shred vs squishy nuke issue. Forces her to either build armor pen on a full AP build for her passive to effectively work vs tanks but will lower her burst damage since she will have 1 less AP item to work with. Or ignore the passive's armor penetration and continue the full AP build and forgo the tank shred but keep the squishy nuke. This would work because tanks tend to build way more Armor than MR. Especially with support build paths (which are usually one of if not the tank in the current META). You got item 3118 item 3026 item 3800 item 3306 and item 3050 which are common tank/bruiser items. At most you may get a item 3065 item 3194 or an item 3001 and maybe item 3111 on a tank, but usually it is a one MR item then full health and armor unless vs a heavy AP comp.

Mordepool1 votes

They havebt landed yet how about we see after they get pushed through

JavelinJoe1 votes

if they wanted to nerf her tank killing, all they needed to do was make her passive deal physical damage. That way she cant build penetrating items as easily due to the conflict of damage (kind of like Corki). Tanks build a lot more Armor than MR usually. So making her have to either build a last whisper item or forgo having a the passive which deals damage with lower resistances would handle the problem nicely.

5050BS1 votes

doubt it

Hayaishi21 votes

Riot shaved off 50 HP from Varus. They can murder Kaisa for all i care. Broken ass champion.

KamakaziGumiBear1 votes

Id be fine if riot nerfed her so hard we dont see her played for 5-7 years. She has already ruined worlds for me. RNG got bodied hard in some of those games, but Kaisa..... I just watched EDG's adc get hooked and engaged on in late game. Kaisa used hourglass, got like 3 hp bars of shields, killed everyone. She will never be balanced. She will either be to weak, or to strong. No champion with her constant dps and mixed dmg should have access to that much mobility. Her ultimate will always make her hands down impossible to deal with at times. She is like if Vayne and Yasuo had a baby and it contracted every toxic disease they had in one body it would be that purple chick....

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