Alright Rito im calling BS on your BE policy.

Skorch·Dec 25, 2017·3 votes·623 views

I know they arent in office rn, so ill probably upload something similar (with hopefully more data) then But for now.

Didnt Riot say something like: The 3 options for BE in champion capsules after level 30 are 900, 1100, and 1300. And in the old system with an equal amount of games (at 6 games or less per day) you would get 1000BE. SO you are getting more BE unless you are REALLY unlucky.

I am officially calling BS. First 5,6,7,8 levels sure maybe im unlucky. But i just hit level 42 and EVERY SINGLE CAPSULE (other than the GRAND capsule) was around 900. Explain Rito. Am i still unlucky? Or is this system just statistically worse.

20 Comments

MysterQDec 25, 20172 votes

810 is actually the minimum.

I personally tracked my games. And I have always gotten slightly more with the new system. Note sometimes I got 200 more, but usually it is like 50 more something small and stupid. It is unfun, but I have recorded gains.

But note, I was mostly (not always) doing FirstWin only. So if you record yours and play a lot, maybe you can show Riot they suck.

SkorchDec 25, 20171 votes

question are they just gains, or amount from boxes. Cause if its actual amounts do you have any over 1000.

MysterQDec 25, 20171 votes

I have gained increased amounts of BE with the new system compared to the old. I have gotten 6300 champ shards (1200BE) but not very often.

darnar360Dec 26, 20172 votes

I love the amount of people that say they have gained more BE with the new system when math already proved them wrong, for once I would love it if people just started saying: "well since the new system was implemented I was lucky to get more BE then I would get IP under the old system", but hey these are the same guys that supported riot taking IP from AI matches, well this game made me go from wanting to play 10 to 12 matches a day to playing 1 maybe 2 arams a day for the win.

here's some math for those that can't do it them selfs:

Before it was 18 IP + 2.312 per min based on a win from history (18+(2.312 x 32))=92 (base IP) +150 for the first win of the day so 242, at lvl 38 I need 2880 XP to lvl up the 32 min match awarded 619 so 5 matches (assuming only FWOTD) to lvl up 5 x 242 is 1210 while the box almost always gives 810 BE +250 (FWOTD gives 50) so the total will be is 1060 based on just that do tell how are we earning more be then before?!?!?! and the gap is only going to get bigger bcs you need more exp each lvl so by lvl 50 I'm probably going to need 10 matches for a single lvl that's 2420 IP while only earning 1310 BE yup these rates are god awfull trash the more you lvl but at least they have a hard cap on exp . . . . which according to wiki just means you lvl a bit faster again for a while and then awfull returns once more

SkorchDec 26, 20171 votes

I believe the new system is better IF you get the shards you need. But if you are NORMAL and need mostly 6300s, that means that odds are, the chances of getting those shards is fuck all.

CochoDec 25, 20171 votes

every 10 levels, there is a milestone. There you'd get like 2k or something. that pushes you more to even

SkorchDec 25, 20171 votes

The AMOUNT doesnt bother me, i dont mind them slowing it down, and would understand WHY.

What DOES bug me is riot saying something so every box i open i go "MAYBE THIS ONE WILL BE ABOVE 1000" and it isnt because they just flat lied.

redniwediSDec 25, 20171 votes

How did they lie? It's a chance, not a guarantee. Even something that has a 50% chance can fail 100 times in a row, because chance doesn't care about the previous attempts. Every individual time has the same percentage chance.

SkorchDec 25, 20171 votes

The thing im claiming is it isnt a chance, all i hear are people saying they get little BE. Has ANYONE got more than a thousand yet. I havent. I dont see people saying actual values.

redniwediSDec 25, 20171 votes

I've gotten multiple champion shards for 6300 champions from a single box, though I haven't been paying attention to numbers that much. I'm also 9 levels above you so I've had more chances at it though.

Just keep recording your outcomes, and when you get a large enough sample size to make a legitimate argument post it for everyone to see.

SkorchDec 25, 20171 votes

Lucky, the only 6300 i got was from the glorious one. Personally i thought 12 levels of the SAME value was enough of a sample size but ill keep leveling i guess.

DemonBoneJanglesDec 26, 20171 votes

overall ive noticed its more random than anything, my last two level up capsules have been pretty decent despite the fact that from 30 to 39 I only went up from 4800be to 5800 be after removing the be I got from the initial switch from ip to be, the last two capsules have moved me from just over 1000be to just under 2000, so over ten or so levels ive only been able to buy one new champion with the be ive earned when normally I could play maybe 20 first win matches under the ip system and buy a 6300 champ

SkorchDec 26, 20171 votes

It sounds to me like you might be under level 30, because even if riot is lying to us and they are always giving minimum, minimum is still 810.

DemonBoneJanglesDec 27, 20171 votes

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It sounds to me like you might be under level 30, because even if riot is lying to us and they are always giving minimum, minimum is still 810.

ok so all you gotta do is mouse over my summoner name and you can see I'm above level 30 plus its even in my comment that I'm level 40, so did you even read it or did you just ignore my entire post because you wanted to be right?

overall its completely random at this point because you can get shards that are nowhere near 810be and you can get shards that are way above 810. so do I believe that 810 is the average amount you receive per level yes, when you take into account that you can earn multiple shards per level or no shards per level (at level 31 and 32 I obtained no shards just an emote and a ward skin and maybe 200be)

afmghostDec 26, 20171 votes

RNJesus hates us all.

elo trashDec 26, 20171 votes

I also hate the new system to get Blue Essence, but riot doesnt take anything seriously anymore. If they did they would have fixed vaynes burst or the complaints about the game being too short.

BluezyDec 26, 20171 votes

It feels so bad for me because i own little more than half the champs and i almost always get shards of champion i already own. Sure the value of the shards is more than 900be but the disenchant value comes out between 350-500be on average for me.

AR URFDec 26, 20171 votes

What I hate is not getting skin shards anymore. I get a chest and open, guess what? champion shard. Get an honor capsule, guess what? champion shard. Get a capsule for leveling up, guess what? champion shard.

https://imgur.com/a/2gN5z https://imgur.com/a/HEwiN

Those champion shards are all before pre-season.

ChizPizaZaneDec 26, 20171 votes

I got 7 6300 BE champs in a row, I'm not joking, which is why I love the new BE system

ŚhunpoDec 26, 20171 votes

"Why reward our players consistently when we could reward them randomly with everyone's favourite system....the LOOTBOX. That way we make more $$$!"

[slayer-jinx-wink]